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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Yoav Cohen <yoav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Uday Shankar <ushankar@purestorage.com>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"axboe@kernel.dk" <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: ublk: Graceful Upgrade of ublk server application
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 17:12:36 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z_90hHRXe7R3fQuk@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM4PR12MB632890760804D06B3CBC357AA9BD2@DM4PR12MB6328.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 08:16:44AM +0000, Yoav Cohen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The use case is as you say to replace the binary (update) without making the bdev to disappear.
> Currently I don't even use the user_copy(to avoid the 1 more system call) so the io buffer is also part of the sqe which is prevent me from free it from userspace perspective.
> So yes, even ABORT_URING_CMD by given tag can be enough.
> What do you think?

I think the requirement is reasonable, which could be one QUIESCE_DEV command:

- only usable for UBLK_F_USER_RECOVERY

- need ublk server cooperation for handling inflight IO command

- fallback to normal cancel code path in case that io_uring is exiting

The implementation shouldn't be hard:

- mark ubq->canceling as ture 
	- freeze request queue
	- mark ubq->canceling as true
	- unfreeze request queue

- canceling all uring_cmd with UBLK_IO_RES_ABORT (*)
	- now there can't be new ublk IO request coming, and ublk server won't
	send new uring_cmd too, 

	- the gatekeeper code of __ublk_ch_uring_cmd() should be reliable to prevent
	any new uring_cmd from malicious application, maybe need audit & refactoring
	a bit

	- need ublk server to handle UBLK_IO_RES_ABORT correctly: release all
	  kinds resource, close ublk char device...

- wait until ublk char device is released by checking UB_STATE_OPEN

- now ublk state becomes UBLK_S_DEV_QUIESCED or UBLK_S_DEV_FAIL_IO,
and userspace can replace the binary and recover device with new
application via UBLK_CMD_START_USER_RECOVERY & UBLK_CMD_END_USER_RECOVERY

Please let us know if the above works for your requirement.

Thanks,
Ming


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-16  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-15  8:15 ublk: Graceful Upgrade of ublk server application Yoav Cohen
2025-04-15 11:06 ` Ming Lei
2025-04-15 19:46   ` Yoav Cohen
2025-04-16  0:51     ` Uday Shankar
2025-04-16  1:39       ` Ming Lei
2025-04-16  8:16         ` Yoav Cohen
2025-04-16  9:12           ` Ming Lei [this message]
2025-04-20  8:57             ` Yoav Cohen
2025-04-21  2:43               ` Ming Lei

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