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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Nilay Shroff <nilay@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	syzbot+4c7e0f9b94ad65811efb@syzkaller.appspotmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] block: don't grab elevator lock during queue initialization
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 15:38:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z_TSYOzPI3GwVms7@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ea09ea46-4772-4947-a9ad-195e83f1490d@linux.ibm.com>

On Mon, Apr 07, 2025 at 01:59:48PM +0530, Nilay Shroff wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/7/25 8:39 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 07:44:19PM +0530, Nilay Shroff wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/4/25 2:40 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 06:54:02PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> >>>> Fixes the following lockdep warning:
> >>>
> >>> Please spell the actual dependency out here, links are not permanent
> >>> and also not readable for any offline reading of the commit logs.
> >>>
> >>>> +static void blk_mq_realloc_hw_ctxs(struct blk_mq_tag_set *set,
> >>>> +				   struct request_queue *q, bool lock)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +	if (lock) {
> >>>
> >>> bool lock(ed) arguments are an anti-pattern, and regularly get Linus
> >>> screaming at you (in this case even for the right reason :))
> >>>
> >>>> +		/* protect against switching io scheduler  */
> >>>> +		mutex_lock(&q->elevator_lock);
> >>>> +		__blk_mq_realloc_hw_ctxs(set, q);
> >>>> +		mutex_unlock(&q->elevator_lock);
> >>>> +	} else {
> >>>> +		__blk_mq_realloc_hw_ctxs(set, q);
> >>>> +	}
> >>>
> >>> I think the problem here is again that because of all the other
> >>> dependencies elevator_lock really needs to be per-set instead of
> >>> per-queue which will allows us to have much saner locking hierarchies.
> >>>
> >> I believe you meant here q->tag_set->elevator_lock? 
> > 
> > I don't know what locks you are planning to invent.
> > 
> > For set->tag_list_lock, it has been very fragile:
> > 
> > blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues
> > 	set->tag_list_lock
> > 		freeze_queue
> > 
> > If IO failure happens when waiting in above freeze_queue(), the nvme error
> > handling can't provide forward progress any more, because the error
> > handling code path requires set->tag_list_lock.
> 
> I think you're referring here nvme_quiesce_io_queues and nvme_unquiesce_io_queues

Yes.

> which is called in nvme error handling path. If yes then I believe this function 
> could be easily modified so that it doesn't require ->tag_list_lock. 

Not sure it is easily, ->tag_list_lock is exactly for protecting the list of "set->tag_list".

And the same list is iterated in blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues() too.

> 
> > 
> > So all queues should be frozen first before calling blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues,
> > fortunately that is what nvme is doing.
> > 
> > 
> >> If yes then it means that we should be able to grab ->elevator_lock
> >> before freezing the queue in __blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues and so locking
> >> order should be in each code path,
> >>
> >> __blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues
> >>     ->elevator_lock 
> >>       ->freeze_lock
> > 
> > Now tagset->elevator_lock depends on set->tag_list_lock, and this way
> > just make things worse. Why can't we disable elevator switch during
> > updating nr_hw_queues?
> > 
> I couldn't quite understand this. As we already first disable the elevator
> before updating sw to hw queue mapping in __blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues().
> Once mapping is successful we switch back the elevator.

Yes, but user still may switch elevator from none to others during the
period, right?


thanks,
Ming


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-08  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-03 10:54 [PATCH] block: don't grab elevator lock during queue initialization Ming Lei
2025-04-03 13:19 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-03 14:24   ` Ming Lei
2025-04-05 14:00     ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-03 14:32 ` Jens Axboe
2025-04-04  9:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-04 12:09   ` Ming Lei
2025-04-07  6:49     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-05 14:14   ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-07  3:09     ` Ming Lei
2025-04-07  8:29       ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-08  7:38         ` Ming Lei [this message]
2025-04-08 13:25           ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-08 13:50             ` Ming Lei
2025-04-09  9:12               ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-09 11:46                 ` Ming Lei
2025-04-09 13:46                   ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-09 14:08                     ` Ming Lei
2025-04-09 19:45                       ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-10  2:10                         ` Ming Lei
2025-04-10 13:36                           ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-10 14:23                             ` Ming Lei
2025-04-10 14:48                               ` Nilay Shroff

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