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From: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	dm-devel@lists.linux.dev, Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 25/26] block: Reduce zone write plugging memory usage
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 08:55:38 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a324beda-7651-4881-aea9-99a339e2b9eb@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f3a2f8b8-32d2-4e42-ba78-1f668d69033f@acm.org>

On 2/6/24 02:51, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On 2/4/24 04:42, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>> On 2/2/24 15:31, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>>> With this mechanism, the amount of memory used per block device for zone
>>> write plugs is roughly reduced by a factor of 4. E.g. for a 28 TB SMR
>>> hard disk, memory usage is reduce to about 1.6 MB.
>>>
>> Hmm. Wouldn't it sufficient to tie the number of available plugs to the
>> number of open zones? Of course that doesn't help for drives not reporting that, but otherwise?
> 
> I have the same question. I think the number of zoned opened by filesystems
> like BTRFS and F2FS is much smaller than the total number of zoned supported
> by zoned drives.

I am not sure what Hannes meant, nor what you mean either.
The array of struct blk_zone_wplug for the disk is sized for the total number of
zones of the drive. The reason for that is that we want to retain the wp_offset
value for all zones, even if they are not being written. Otherwise, everytime we
start writing a zone, we would need to do a report zones to be able to emulate
zone append operations if the drive requested that.

Once the user/FS starts writing to a zone, we allocate a struct
blk_zone_active_wplug (64 B) from a mempool that is sized according to the drive
maximum number of active zones or maximum number of open zones. The mempool
ensure minimal overhead for that allocation, far less than what a report zone
command would cost us in lost time (we are talking about 1ms at least on SMR
drives). Also, with SMR, report zones cause a cache flush, so this command can
be very slow and we *really* want to avoid it in the hot path.

So yes, it is somewhat a large amount of memory (16 B per zone), but even with a
super large 28 TB SMR drive, that is still a reasonnable 1.6 MB. But I am of
course open to suggestions to optimize this further.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bart.
> 
> 

-- 
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research


  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-05 23:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-02  7:30 [PATCH 00/26] Zone write plugging Damien Le Moal
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 01/26] block: Restore sector of flush requests Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 11:55   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-05 17:22   ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-05 23:42     ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 02/26] block: Remove req_bio_endio() Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 11:57   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-05 17:28   ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-05 23:45     ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-09  6:53     ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 03/26] block: Introduce bio_straddle_zones() and bio_offset_from_zone_start() Damien Le Moal
2024-02-03  4:09   ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-04 11:58   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 04/26] block: Introduce blk_zone_complete_request_bio() Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 11:59   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 05/26] block: Allow using bio_attempt_back_merge() internally Damien Le Moal
2024-02-03  4:11   ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-04 12:00   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 06/26] block: Introduce zone write plugging Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04  3:56   ` Ming Lei
2024-02-04 23:57     ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-05  2:19       ` Ming Lei
2024-02-05  2:41         ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-05  3:38           ` Ming Lei
2024-02-05  5:11           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-05  5:37             ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-05  5:50               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-05  6:14                 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-05 10:06           ` Ming Lei
2024-02-05 12:20             ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-05 12:43               ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:14   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-05 17:48   ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-05 23:48     ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-06  0:52       ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 07/26] block: Allow zero value of max_zone_append_sectors queue limit Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:15   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 08/26] block: Implement zone append emulation Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:24   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-05  0:10     ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-05 17:58   ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-05 23:57     ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 09/26] block: Allow BIO-based drivers to use blk_revalidate_disk_zones() Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:26   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 10/26] dm: Use the block layer zone append emulation Damien Le Moal
2024-02-03 17:58   ` Mike Snitzer
2024-02-05  5:38     ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-05 20:33       ` Mike Snitzer
2024-02-05 23:40         ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-06 20:41           ` Mike Snitzer
2024-02-04 12:30   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 11/26] scsi: sd: " Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:29   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-06  1:55   ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 12/26] ublk_drv: Do not request ELEVATOR_F_ZBD_SEQ_WRITE elevator feature Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:31   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 13/26] null_blk: " Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:31   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 14/26] null_blk: Introduce zone_append_max_sectors attribute Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:32   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 15/26] null_blk: Introduce fua attribute Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:33   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 16/26] nvmet: zns: Do not reference the gendisk conv_zones_bitmap Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:34   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 17/26] block: Remove BLK_STS_ZONE_RESOURCE Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:34   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 18/26] block: Simplify blk_revalidate_disk_zones() interface Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:35   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 19/26] block: mq-deadline: Remove support for zone write locking Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:36   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 20/26] block: Remove elevator required features Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:36   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:30 ` [PATCH 21/26] block: Do not check zone type in blk_check_zone_append() Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:37   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:31 ` [PATCH 22/26] block: Move zone related debugfs attribute to blk-zoned.c Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:38   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:31 ` [PATCH 23/26] block: Remove zone write locking Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:38   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:31 ` [PATCH 24/26] block: Do not special-case plugging of zone write operations Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:39   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:31 ` [PATCH 25/26] block: Reduce zone write plugging memory usage Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:42   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-05 17:51     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-05 23:55       ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2024-02-06 21:20         ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-09  3:58           ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-09 19:36             ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-10  0:06               ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-11  3:40                 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-12  1:09                   ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-12 18:58                     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-12  8:23                   ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-12  8:47                     ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-12 18:40                       ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-13  0:05                         ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-02  7:31 ` [PATCH 26/26] block: Add zone_active_wplugs debugfs entry Damien Le Moal
2024-02-04 12:43   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-02-02  7:37 ` [PATCH 00/26] Zone write plugging Damien Le Moal
2024-02-03 12:11   ` Jens Axboe
2024-02-09  5:28     ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-05 17:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-05 23:42   ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-06  0:57     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-05 18:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-06  0:07   ` Damien Le Moal
2024-02-06  1:25     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-02-09  4:03       ` Damien Le Moal

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