From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Yoav Cohen <yoav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Uday Shankar <ushankar@purestorage.com>,
"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
"axboe@kernel.dk" <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: ublk: Graceful Upgrade of ublk server application
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 10:43:26 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aAWwzm3IdpL8odQf@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM4PR12MB632807AB7CDCE77D1E5AB7D0A9B92@DM4PR12MB6328.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
Hi Yoav,
On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 08:57:23AM +0000, Yoav Cohen wrote:
> Hi Ming,
>
> Thank you very much!
> The above seems to match our requirements.
> Just to be sure, Do you want me to Implement it and issue a patch or do you plan add it to your plan?
It is great if you'd like to implement the feature, and please add one
selftest case(add quiesce command & one test case) together with the
driver change.
Otherwise, I can add it to my todo list.
Thanks,
Ming
>
> Thanks
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 12:12 PM
> To: Yoav Cohen
> Cc: Uday Shankar; linux-block@vger.kernel.org; axboe@kernel.dk
> Subject: Re: ublk: Graceful Upgrade of ublk server application
>
> External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 08:16:44AM +0000, Yoav Cohen wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The use case is as you say to replace the binary (update) without making the bdev to disappear.
> > Currently I don't even use the user_copy(to avoid the 1 more system call) so the io buffer is also part of the sqe which is prevent me from free it from userspace perspective.
> > So yes, even ABORT_URING_CMD by given tag can be enough.
> > What do you think?
>
> I think the requirement is reasonable, which could be one QUIESCE_DEV command:
>
> - only usable for UBLK_F_USER_RECOVERY
>
> - need ublk server cooperation for handling inflight IO command
>
> - fallback to normal cancel code path in case that io_uring is exiting
>
> The implementation shouldn't be hard:
>
> - mark ubq->canceling as ture
> - freeze request queue
> - mark ubq->canceling as true
> - unfreeze request queue
>
> - canceling all uring_cmd with UBLK_IO_RES_ABORT (*)
> - now there can't be new ublk IO request coming, and ublk server won't
> send new uring_cmd too,
>
> - the gatekeeper code of __ublk_ch_uring_cmd() should be reliable to prevent
> any new uring_cmd from malicious application, maybe need audit & refactoring
> a bit
>
> - need ublk server to handle UBLK_IO_RES_ABORT correctly: release all
> kinds resource, close ublk char device...
>
> - wait until ublk char device is released by checking UB_STATE_OPEN
>
> - now ublk state becomes UBLK_S_DEV_QUIESCED or UBLK_S_DEV_FAIL_IO,
> and userspace can replace the binary and recover device with new
> application via UBLK_CMD_START_USER_RECOVERY & UBLK_CMD_END_USER_RECOVERY
>
> Please let us know if the above works for your requirement.
>
> Thanks,
> Ming
>
--
Ming
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-21 2:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-15 8:15 ublk: Graceful Upgrade of ublk server application Yoav Cohen
2025-04-15 11:06 ` Ming Lei
2025-04-15 19:46 ` Yoav Cohen
2025-04-16 0:51 ` Uday Shankar
2025-04-16 1:39 ` Ming Lei
2025-04-16 8:16 ` Yoav Cohen
2025-04-16 9:12 ` Ming Lei
2025-04-20 8:57 ` Yoav Cohen
2025-04-21 2:43 ` Ming Lei [this message]
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