From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "Nilay Shroff" <nilay@linux.ibm.com>,
"Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
"Shinichiro Kawasaki" <shinichiro.kawasaki@wdc.com>,
"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 07/20] block: prevent adding/deleting disk during updating nr_hw_queues
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 17:29:17 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aAdhbUAzFSxtCWzR@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250422070432.GB30990@lst.de>
On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 09:04:32AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 10:39:24AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > In my view, RCU is optimized for read-heavy workloads with:
> > > - Non-blocking readers
> >
> > srcu allows blocking reader
>
> It does. But it's certainly not optimized for long blocking readers.
>
> > Basically I agree with you that rwsem(instead of rwlock) should match with
> > this case in theory, but I feel that rwsem is stronger than srcu from lock
> > viewpoint, and we will add new dependency if rwsem is held inside
> > ->store(), such as the following splat.
>
> How does manually implementing a reader/write lock using SRCU avoid
> that dependency vs just hiding it?
>
> I'd rather sort this out as a rwsem is very natural her as Nilay pointed
> out, and also avoids the whole giv up and retry pattern.
Thinking of further, the warning triggered from rwsem is false positive,
because elevator switch can't happen until disk is added, and the splat
can be avoided by switching to down_read_nested() in elevator_change(),
which need to be nested too.
So looks fine to use rwsem.
Thanks,
Ming
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-22 9:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-18 16:36 [PATCH V2 00/20] block: unify elevator changing and fix lockdep warning Ming Lei
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 01/20] block: move blk_mq_add_queue_tag_set() after blk_mq_map_swqueue() Ming Lei
2025-04-19 8:57 ` Yu Kuai
2025-04-19 10:25 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-21 12:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-22 6:00 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 02/20] block: move ELEVATOR_FLAG_DISABLE_WBT as request queue flag Ming Lei
2025-04-19 8:59 ` Yu Kuai
2025-04-19 14:52 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-21 12:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-22 6:01 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 03/20] block: don't call freeze queue in elevator_switch() and elevator_disable() Ming Lei
2025-04-19 9:01 ` Yu Kuai
2025-04-21 12:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-22 4:00 ` Ming Lei
2025-04-22 7:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-22 6:02 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 04/20] block: add two helpers for registering/un-registering sched debugfs Ming Lei
2025-04-19 9:18 ` Yu Kuai
2025-04-19 10:27 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-21 12:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-22 6:04 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 05/20] block: move sched debugfs register into elvevator_register_queue Ming Lei
2025-04-19 9:28 ` Yu Kuai
2025-04-19 10:28 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-21 12:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-22 6:06 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 06/20] block: add & pass 'struct gendisk_data' for retrying add/del disk in updating nr_hw_queues Ming Lei
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 07/20] block: prevent adding/deleting disk during " Ming Lei
2025-04-19 11:20 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-21 2:39 ` Ming Lei
2025-04-22 7:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-22 9:29 ` Ming Lei [this message]
2025-04-22 10:26 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 08/20] block: don't allow to switch elevator if updating nr_hw_queues is in-progress Ming Lei
2025-04-19 11:22 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 09/20] block: simplify elevator rebuild for updating nr_hw_queues Ming Lei
2025-04-19 11:25 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 10/20] block: add helper of elevator_change() Ming Lei
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 11/20] block: move blk_unregister_queue() & device_del() after freeze wait Ming Lei
2025-04-19 12:38 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-22 10:50 ` Ming Lei
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 12/20] block: add `struct elv_change_ctx` for unifying elevator_change Ming Lei
2025-04-19 12:40 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-22 7:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-22 8:36 ` Ming Lei
2025-04-23 7:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 13/20] block: unifying elevator change Ming Lei
2025-04-19 13:26 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-24 9:02 ` Ming Lei
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 14/20] block: pass elevator_queue to elv_register_queue & unregister_queue Ming Lei
2025-04-19 13:28 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 15/20] block: fail to show/store elevator sysfs attribute if elevator is dying Ming Lei
2025-04-19 13:45 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 16/20] block: move elv_register[unregister]_queue out of elevator_lock Ming Lei
2025-04-19 13:55 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-22 10:53 ` Ming Lei
2025-04-22 11:06 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-22 11:14 ` Ming Lei
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 17/20] block: move debugfs/sysfs register out of freezing queue Ming Lei
2025-04-19 13:57 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-18 16:36 ` [PATCH V2 18/20] block: remove several ->elevator_lock Ming Lei
2025-04-19 14:17 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-18 16:37 ` [PATCH V2 19/20] block: move hctx cpuhp add/del out of queue freezing Ming Lei
2025-04-19 14:20 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-18 16:37 ` [PATCH V2 20/20] block: move wbt_enable_default() out of queue freezing from sched ->exit() Ming Lei
2025-04-19 14:39 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-21 7:27 ` Ming Lei
2025-04-22 6:14 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-22 8:13 ` Ming Lei
2025-04-22 9:27 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-04-22 9:33 ` Ming Lei
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