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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Nilay Shroff <nilay@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] block: move queue quiesce into elevator_change()
Date: Thu, 8 May 2025 11:02:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBweuFKT8nlhHWB1@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70c4554e-f578-44d6-b96c-bface94604f1@linux.ibm.com>

On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 12:35:21AM +0530, Nilay Shroff wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/7/25 7:58 PM, Ming Lei wrote:
> > On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 03:53:49PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> >> On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 08:04:02PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> >>> blk_mq_freeze_queue() can't be called on quiesced queue, otherwise it may
> >>> never return if there is any queued requests.
> >>>
> >>> Fix it by moving queue quiesce int elevator_change() by adding one flag to
> >>> 'struct elv_change_ctx' for controlling this behavior.
> >>
> >> Why do we even need to quiesce the queue here, and not anywhere else?
> > 
> > Quiesce is for draining the in-progress critical area, which can't be
> > covered by queue freeze. Typically, all requests are freed, the run queue
> > activity isn't finished yet, so schedule data can be touched by the un-finished
> > code path.
> > 
> > We did fix this kind of bugs by queue quiesce several times.
> > 
> Technically after freezing the queue, we don't have any in-flight request when 
> blk_mq_freeze_queue returns. Yes we may still have some dispatch operations
> running and so we want to wait for it to finish. In that case, we may just call
> synchronize_rcu/synchronize_srcu (instead of blk_mq_quiesce_queue) to ensure that
> all in-progress dispatch operations are finished. That way we can also avoid
> calling blk_mq_unquiesce_queue later when we finish switching elevator. 

synchronize_rcu/synchronize_srcu can't be better than blk_mq_quiesce_queue,
because it can't prevent from entering new rcu/srcu read lock critical area.


Thanks,
Ming


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-08  3:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-07 12:04 [PATCH 0/2] block: fix hang in elevator_change() and improve elevator_set_none Ming Lei
2025-05-07 12:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] block: move queue quiesce into elevator_change() Ming Lei
2025-05-07 13:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-07 14:28     ` Ming Lei
2025-05-07 14:48       ` Ming Lei
2025-05-07 19:05       ` Nilay Shroff
2025-05-08  3:02         ` Ming Lei [this message]
2025-05-08  5:03       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-08  8:03         ` Ming Lei
2025-05-07 12:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] block: avoid unnecessary queue freeze in elevator_set_none() Ming Lei
2025-05-07 13:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-08  3:57     ` Ming Lei
2025-05-08  5:04       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-08  8:16         ` Ming Lei
2025-05-07 19:20   ` Nilay Shroff
2025-05-08  4:31 ` [PATCH 0/2] block: fix hang in elevator_change() and improve elevator_set_none Shinichiro Kawasaki

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