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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	Sathya Prakash Veerichetty <sathya.prakash@broadcom.com>,
	"yukuai (C)" <yukuai3@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] blk-mq: Replace tags->lock with SRCU for tag iterators
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2025 16:59:14 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJMZYvCwsR8f3cJZ@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <383cb150-9a46-8377-79df-66e8eafc7eb5@huaweicloud.com>

On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 09:06:28AM +0800, Yu Kuai wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 在 2025/08/05 16:48, Ming Lei 写道:
> > On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 04:38:56PM +0800, Yu Kuai wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > 在 2025/08/05 16:33, Yu Kuai 写道:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > 在 2025/08/04 19:32, Ming Lei 写道:
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 04, 2025 at 02:30:43PM +0800, Yu Kuai wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 在 2025/08/01 19:44, Ming Lei 写道:
> > > > > > > Replace the spinlock in blk_mq_find_and_get_req() with an
> > > > > > > SRCU read lock
> > > > > > > around the tag iterators.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This is done by:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > - Holding the SRCU read lock in blk_mq_queue_tag_busy_iter(),
> > > > > > > blk_mq_tagset_busy_iter(), and blk_mq_hctx_has_requests().
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > - Removing the now-redundant tags->lock from blk_mq_find_and_get_req().
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This change improves performance by replacing a spinlock with a more
> > > > > > > scalable SRCU lock, and fixes lockup issue in
> > > > > > > scsi_host_busy() in case of
> > > > > > > shost->host_blocked.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Meantime it becomes possible to use blk_mq_in_driver_rw() for io
> > > > > > > accounting.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > >     block/blk-mq-tag.c | 12 ++++++++----
> > > > > > >     block/blk-mq.c     | 24 ++++--------------------
> > > > > > >     2 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > diff --git a/block/blk-mq-tag.c b/block/blk-mq-tag.c
> > > > > > > index 6c2f5881e0de..7ae431077a32 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/block/blk-mq-tag.c
> > > > > > > +++ b/block/blk-mq-tag.c
> > > > > > > @@ -256,13 +256,10 @@ static struct request
> > > > > > > *blk_mq_find_and_get_req(struct blk_mq_tags *tags,
> > > > > > >             unsigned int bitnr)
> > > > > > >     {
> > > > > > >         struct request *rq;
> > > > > > > -    unsigned long flags;
> > > > > > > -    spin_lock_irqsave(&tags->lock, flags);
> > > > > > >         rq = tags->rqs[bitnr];
> > > > > > >         if (!rq || rq->tag != bitnr || !req_ref_inc_not_zero(rq))
> > > > > > >             rq = NULL;
> > > > > > > -    spin_unlock_irqrestore(&tags->lock, flags);
> > > > > > >         return rq;
> > > > > > >     }
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > Just wonder, does the lockup problem due to the tags->lock contention by
> > > > > > concurrent scsi_host_busy?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > @@ -440,7 +437,9 @@ void blk_mq_tagset_busy_iter(struct
> > > > > > > blk_mq_tag_set *tagset,
> > > > > > >             busy_tag_iter_fn *fn, void *priv)
> > > > > > >     {
> > > > > > >         unsigned int flags = tagset->flags;
> > > > > > > -    int i, nr_tags;
> > > > > > > +    int i, nr_tags, srcu_idx;
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +    srcu_idx = srcu_read_lock(&tagset->tags_srcu);
> > > > > > >         nr_tags = blk_mq_is_shared_tags(flags) ? 1 :
> > > > > > > tagset->nr_hw_queues;
> > > > > > > @@ -449,6 +448,7 @@ void blk_mq_tagset_busy_iter(struct
> > > > > > > blk_mq_tag_set *tagset,
> > > > > > >                 __blk_mq_all_tag_iter(tagset->tags[i], fn, priv,
> > > > > > >                               BT_TAG_ITER_STARTED);
> > > > > > >         }
> > > > > > > +    srcu_read_unlock(&tagset->tags_srcu, srcu_idx);
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > And should we add cond_resched() after finish interating one tags, even
> > > > > > with the srcu change, looks like it's still possible to lockup with
> > > > > > big cpu cores & deep queue depth.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The main trouble is from the big tags->lock.
> > > > > 
> > > > > IMO it isn't needed, because max queue depth is just 10K, which is much
> > > > > bigger than actual queue depth. We can add it when someone shows it is
> > > > > really needed.
> > > > 
> > > > If we don't want this, why not using srcu here? Looks like just use
> > > > rcu_read_lock and rcu_read_unlock to protect blk_mq_find_and_get_req()
> > > > will be enough.
> > > 
> > > Like following patch:
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/block/blk-mq-tag.c b/block/blk-mq-tag.c
> > > index d880c50629d6..e2381ee9747d 100644
> > > --- a/block/blk-mq-tag.c
> > > +++ b/block/blk-mq-tag.c
> > > @@ -255,11 +255,11 @@ static struct request *blk_mq_find_and_get_req(struct
> > > blk_mq_tags *tags,
> > >          struct request *rq;
> > >          unsigned long flags;
> > > 
> > > -       spin_lock_irqsave(&tags->lock, flags);
> > > +       rcu_read_lock();
> > >          rq = tags->rqs[bitnr];
> > >          if (!rq || rq->tag != bitnr || !req_ref_inc_not_zero(rq))
> > >                  rq = NULL;
> > > -       spin_unlock_irqrestore(&tags->lock, flags);
> > > +       rcu_read_unlock();
> > >          return rq;
> > >   }
> > 
> > srcu read lock has to be grabbed when request reference is being accessed,
> > so the above change is wrong, otherwise plain rcu is enough.
> > 
> I don't quite understand, I think it's enough to protect grabbing req
> reference, because IO issue path grab q_usage_counter before setting
> req reference to 1, and IO complete path decrease req reference to 0
> before dropping q_usage_counter.

In theory it is true, but the implementation is pretty fragile, because the
correctness replies on the implied memory barrier(un-documented) in blk_mq_get_tag()
between blk_try_enter_queue() and req_ref_set(rq, 1).

> 
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/block/blk-mq.c b/block/blk-mq.c
> > > index b1d81839679f..a70959cad692 100644
> > > --- a/block/blk-mq.c
> > > +++ b/block/blk-mq.c
> > > @@ -3442,12 +3442,8 @@ static void blk_mq_clear_rq_mapping(struct
> > > blk_mq_tags *drv_tags,
> > > 
> > >          /*
> > >           * Wait until all pending iteration is done.
> > > -        *
> > > -        * Request reference is cleared and it is guaranteed to be observed
> > > -        * after the ->lock is released.
> > >           */
> > > -       spin_lock_irqsave(&drv_tags->lock, flags);
> > > -       spin_unlock_irqrestore(&drv_tags->lock, flags);
> > > +       synchronize_rcu();
> > 
> > We do want to avoid big delay in this code path, so call_srcu() is much
> > better.
> 
> Agreed, however, there is rcu verion helper as well, call_rcu().

I prefer to srcu, which is simple & straight-forward, especially the background
of this issue has been tough enough.


Thanks,
Ming


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-06  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-01 11:44 [PATCH 0/5] blk-mq: Replace tags->lock with SRCU for tag iterators Ming Lei
2025-08-01 11:44 ` [PATCH 1/5] blk-mq: Move flush queue allocation into blk_mq_init_hctx() Ming Lei
2025-08-04  6:06   ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-04  7:07   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-08-01 11:44 ` [PATCH 2/5] blk-mq: Pass tag_set to blk_mq_free_rq_map/tags Ming Lei
2025-08-04  7:08   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-08-05  7:48   ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-01 11:44 ` [PATCH 3/5] blk-mq: Defer freeing of tags page_list to SRCU callback Ming Lei
2025-08-04  7:09   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-08-06  9:15   ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-01 11:44 ` [PATCH 4/5] blk-mq: Defer freeing flush queue " Ming Lei
2025-08-04  7:11   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-08-06  9:17   ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-01 11:44 ` [PATCH 5/5] blk-mq: Replace tags->lock with SRCU for tag iterators Ming Lei
2025-08-04  6:30   ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-04 11:32     ` Ming Lei
2025-08-05  8:33       ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-05  8:38         ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-05  8:48           ` Ming Lei
2025-08-06  1:06             ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-06  8:59               ` Ming Lei [this message]
2025-08-06  9:06                 ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-04  7:13   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-08-04 11:35     ` Ming Lei
2025-08-04 11:45       ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-08-06  9:21   ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-06 13:28     ` Ming Lei
2025-08-07  1:23       ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-07  2:12         ` Ming Lei
2025-08-07  3:44           ` Yu Kuai

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