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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Zhaoyang Huang <zhaoyang.huang@unisoc.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: calling into file systems directly from ->queue_rq, was Re: [PATCH V5 0/6] loop: improve loop aio perf by IOCB_NOWAIT
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2025 17:02:03 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aSQfC2rzoCZcMfTH@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aSP3SG_KaROJTBHx@infradead.org>

On Sun, Nov 23, 2025 at 10:12:24PM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> FYI, with this series I'm seeing somewhat frequent stack overflows when
> using loop on top of XFS on top of stacked block devices.

Can you share your setting?

BTW, there are one followup fix:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/20251120160722.3623884-1-ming.lei@redhat.com/

I just run 'xfstests -q quick' on loop on top of XFS on top of dm-stripe,
not see stack overflow with the above fix against -next.

> 
> This seems to be because this can now issue I/O directly from ->queue_rq
> instead of breaking the stack chain, i.e. we can build much deeper call
> stacks now.
> 
> Also this now means a file systems using current->journal_info can call
> into another file system trying to use, making things blow up even worse.
> 
> In other words:  I don't think issuing file system I/O from the
> submission thread in loop can work, and we should drop this again.

I don't object to drop it one more time.

However, can we confirm if it is really a stack overflow because of
calling into FS from ->queue_rq()?

If yes, it could be dead end to improve loop in this way, then I can give up.


Thanks, 
Ming


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-24  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-15 11:07 [PATCH V5 0/6] loop: improve loop aio perf by IOCB_NOWAIT Ming Lei
2025-10-15 11:07 ` [PATCH V5 1/6] loop: add helper lo_cmd_nr_bvec() Ming Lei
2025-10-15 15:49   ` Bart Van Assche
2025-10-16  2:19     ` Ming Lei
2025-10-15 11:07 ` [PATCH V5 2/6] loop: add helper lo_rw_aio_prep() Ming Lei
2025-10-15 11:07 ` [PATCH V5 3/6] loop: add lo_submit_rw_aio() Ming Lei
2025-10-15 11:07 ` [PATCH V5 4/6] loop: move command blkcg/memcg initialization into loop_queue_work Ming Lei
2025-10-15 11:07 ` [PATCH V5 5/6] loop: try to handle loop aio command via NOWAIT IO first Ming Lei
2025-10-15 11:07 ` [PATCH V5 6/6] loop: add hint for handling aio via IOCB_NOWAIT Ming Lei
2025-11-18 12:55 ` [PATCH V5 0/6] loop: improve loop aio perf by IOCB_NOWAIT Ming Lei
2025-11-18 15:38 ` Jens Axboe
2025-11-24  6:12 ` calling into file systems directly from ->queue_rq, was " Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-24  9:02   ` Ming Lei [this message]
2025-11-24  9:05     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-25  3:00       ` Ming Lei
2025-11-25  3:56         ` Jens Axboe
2025-11-25  7:26         ` Gao Xiang
2025-11-25  9:19           ` Ming Lei
2025-11-25  9:39             ` Gao Xiang
2025-11-25 10:13               ` Gao Xiang
2025-11-25 10:41               ` Ming Lei
2025-11-25 10:57                 ` Gao Xiang
2025-11-25 11:10                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-25 11:48                   ` Ming Lei
2025-11-25 11:58                     ` Gao Xiang
2025-11-25 12:18                       ` Ming Lei
2025-11-25 15:16                         ` Gao Xiang

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