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From: Ming Lei <tom.leiming@gmail.com>
To: Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@atomlin.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 13/13] docs: add io_queue flag to isolcpus
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2026 20:52:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adpD8M8cNu3IZzEL@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dzpxscrhibmi5okkozf5jfull4dcajgpctldvdyfcjgmpeetk5@tkeyqouyabzy>

On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 03:31:22PM -0400, Aaron Tomlin wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 10:44:15AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > For unmanaged interrupts, user can set irq affinity on housekeeping cpus
> > from /proc or kernel command line.
> > 
> > Why is unmanaged interrupts involved with this patchset?
> 
> Thank you for your continued engagement and for ultimately supporting the
> progression of this series.
> 
> To clarify the handling of unmanaged interrupts, while it is entirely true
> that an administrator could attempt to manually configure "irqaffinity=" or
> via procfs after the fact, this series actively address unmanaged interrupts.
> 
> > > CPUs, thereby breaking isolation. By applying the constraint via io_queue
> > > at the block layer, we restrict the hardware queue count and map the
> > > isolated CPUs to the housekeeping queues, ensuring isolation is maintained
> > > regardless of whether the driver uses managed interrupts.
> > > 
> > > Does the above help?
> > 
> > As I mentioned, managed irq already covers it:
> > 
> > - typically application submits IO from housekeeping CPUs, which is mapped
> >   to one hardware, which effective interrupt affinity excludes isolated
> >   CPUs if possible.
> > 
> > I'd suggest to share some real problems you found instead of something
> > imaginary.
> 
> If we trace how mpi3mr sets up its ISRs, it relies heavily on the core
> grouping logic:
> 
> mpi3mr_setup_isr
> {
>   unsigned int irq_flags = PCI_IRQ_MSIX
> 
>   struct irq_affinity desc = { .pre_vectors =  1, .post_vectors = 1, }
> 
>   pci_alloc_irq_vectors_affinity(mrioc->pdev, min_vec,
>                                  max_vectors, irq_flags, &desc)
>   {
>     if (flags & PCI_IRQ_MSIX) {
>       // affd != NULL
>       __pci_enable_msix_range(dev, NULL, min_vecs, max_vecs, affd, flags)
>       {
> 
>         for (;;) {
> 
>           msix_capability_init(dev, entries, nvec, affd)
>           {
>             msix_setup_interrupts(dev, entries, nvec, affd)
>             {
>               // affd
>               irq_create_affinity_masks(nvec, affd)
>               {
>                 for (i = 0, usedvecs = 0; i < affd->nr_sets; i++) {
>                   unsigned int nr_masks, this_vecs = affd->set_size[i]
>                   struct cpumask *result = group_cpus_evenly(this_vecs,
>                                                              &nr_masks)
>                   if (!result) {
>                     kfree(masks)
>                     return NULL
>                   }
> 
>                   for (int j = 0; j < nr_masks; j++)
>                     cpumask_copy(&masks[curvec + j].mask, &result[j])
>                   kfree(result);
> 
>                   curvec += nr_masks
>                   usedvecs += nr_masks
>                 }
>               }
>             }
>           }
>         }
>       }
>     }
>   }
> }
> 
> The critical issue lies at the invocation of group_cpus_evenly(). Without
> this patchset, the core logic lacks the necessary constraints to respect
> CPU isolation. It is entirely possible, and indeed happens in practice, for
> an isolated CPU to be assigned to a CPU mask group.

It is one bug report? No, because it doesn't show any trouble from user
viewpoint.

Sebastian explains/shows how "isolcpus=managed_irq" works perfectly in the
following link:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260401110232.ET5RxZfl@linutronix.de/

You have reviewed it...

What matters is that IO won't interrupt isolated CPU.

> 
> The newer implementation of irq_create_affinity_masks() introduced by this
> series resolves this. It considers the new CPU mask added to the IRQ
> affinity descriptor. When group_mask_cpus_evenly() is called, this mask is
> evaluated [1], guaranteeing that isolated CPUs are entirely excluded from
> the mask groups.
> 
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260401222312.772334-8-atomlin@atomlin.com/

Not at all.

isolated CPU is still included in each group's cpu mask, please see patch
9:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/20260401222312.772334-1-atomlin@atomlin.com/T/#m59df0689ef144f5361535ce59c9ed5923d6e21d5



Thanks, 
Ming

      reply	other threads:[~2026-04-11 12:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-01 22:22 [PATCH v10 00/13] blk: honor isolcpus configuration Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-01 22:23 ` [PATCH v10 01/13] scsi: aacraid: use block layer helpers to calculate num of queues Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-03  1:43   ` Martin K. Petersen
2026-04-01 22:23 ` [PATCH v10 02/13] lib/group_cpus: remove dead !SMP code Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-03  1:45   ` Martin K. Petersen
2026-04-01 22:23 ` [PATCH v10 03/13] lib/group_cpus: Add group_mask_cpus_evenly() Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-01 22:23 ` [PATCH v10 04/13] genirq/affinity: Add cpumask to struct irq_affinity Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-01 22:23 ` [PATCH v10 05/13] blk-mq: add blk_mq_{online|possible}_queue_affinity Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-01 22:23 ` [PATCH v10 06/13] nvme-pci: use block layer helpers to constrain queue affinity Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-03  1:46   ` Martin K. Petersen
2026-04-01 22:23 ` [PATCH v10 07/13] scsi: Use " Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-03  1:46   ` Martin K. Petersen
2026-04-01 22:23 ` [PATCH v10 08/13] virtio: blk/scsi: use " Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-03  1:47   ` Martin K. Petersen
2026-04-01 22:23 ` [PATCH v10 09/13] isolation: Introduce io_queue isolcpus type Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-03  1:47   ` Martin K. Petersen
2026-04-01 22:23 ` [PATCH v10 10/13] blk-mq: use hk cpus only when isolcpus=io_queue is enabled Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-03  2:06   ` Waiman Long
2026-04-05 23:09     ` Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-01 22:23 ` [PATCH v10 11/13] blk-mq: prevent offlining hk CPUs with associated online isolated CPUs Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-01 22:23 ` [PATCH v10 12/13] genirq/affinity: Restrict managed IRQ affinity to housekeeping CPUs Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-01 22:23 ` [PATCH v10 13/13] docs: add io_queue flag to isolcpus Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-03  2:30   ` Ming Lei
2026-04-06  1:15     ` Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-06  3:29       ` Ming Lei
2026-04-08 15:58         ` Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-09 15:00           ` Ming Lei
2026-04-10  1:45             ` Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-10  2:44               ` Ming Lei
2026-04-10 19:31                 ` Aaron Tomlin
2026-04-11 12:52                   ` Ming Lei [this message]

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