From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, mpatocka@redhat.com
Cc: Keith Busch <kbusch@meta.com>,
axboe@kernel.dk, dm-devel@lists.linux.dev, bmarzins@redhat.com,
Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: block: let a stacking device inherit its members' DMA alignment
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2026 12:44:39 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <avdMhzSVQbRJIRLF@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aumxcHVjVonjs6OV@infradead.org>
On Tue, Nov 03, 2026 at 02:03:28AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2026 at 01:01:10PM -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 09, 2026 at 09:15:17AM -0700, Keith Busch wrote:
> > > From: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
> > >
> > > All device mappers that want to override the dma_alignment do so.
>
> Don't start a patch description by quoting another mail.
>
> > Direct I/O from memory every member accepts is therefore rejected at
> > the stacking device, and callers that check the advertised alignment
> > (for instance through STATX_DIOALIGN) fall back to buffered I/O.
> >
> > Leave dma_alignment at zero in blk_set_stacking_limits() so that the
> > stacked value is the strictest of the members'. blk_validate_limits()
> > still applies the SECTOR_SIZE - 1 default when nothing was stacked,
> > such as for a table with no devices. Targets that process the data
> > themselves and need logical-block-aligned memory already set
> > dma_alignment in their io_hints (dm-crypt, dm-integrity, dm-verity,
> > dm-log-writes), and NVMe multipath sets its own.
>
> Chances are very high that this will introduce bugs somewhere,
> as a lot of drivers are historically not ready to deal with lower
> alignments, and will creeat nasty exploitable bugs.
>
> So you'll need to audit each driver that wants to relax this
> individually, and then override the value for them. Alternatively
> we could start with 0 in the block layer, but then you need to
> lift the current setting into each caller first, and only remove
> them one-by-one with a commit per driver explaining why that is safe
> (and sensible).
>
Yeap, important work needed outside of DM for sure. Mikulas, after DM,
are you willing to do this mechanical audit/change to the block
subsystem in general? ;)
Mike
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2026-10-22 17:01 ` [PATCH] block: let a stacking device inherit its members' DMA alignment Mike Snitzer
2026-11-03 10:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-11-03 17:31 ` Keith Busch
2026-11-13 17:48 ` Mike Snitzer
2026-11-13 17:44 ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
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