From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
Linux regressions mailing list <regressions@lists.linux.dev>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: API break, sysfs "capability" file
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 08:22:54 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b74f99e8-5a50-4e93-987f-0bcfc0c27959@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zh6IpqnSfGHXMjVa@gardel-login>
On 4/16/24 8:18 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Di, 09.04.24 09:17, Jens Axboe (axboe@kernel.dk) wrote:
>
>> On 4/9/24 8:15 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 10:19:09AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>>> All I am looking for is a very simple test that returns me a boolean:
>>>> is there kernel-level partition scanning enabled on this device or
>>>> not.
>>>
>>> And we can add a trivial sysfs attribute for that.
>>
>> And I think we should. I don't know what was being smoked adding a sysfs
>> interface that exposed internal flag values - and honestly what was
>> being smoked to rely on that, but I think it's fair to say that the
>> majority of the fuckup here is on the kernel side.
>
> Yeah, it's a shitty interface, the kernel is rich in that. But it was
> excessively well documented, better in fact than almost all other
> kernel interfaces:
>
> ? https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.16/block/capability.html ?
>
> If you document something on so much detail in the API docs, how do
> you expect this *not* to be relied on by userspace.
This is _internal_ documentation, not user ABI documentation. The fact
that it's talking about internal flag values should make that clear,
though I can definitely see how that's just badly exposed along with
other things that document things that users/admins could care about.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-16 14:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-08 15:13 API break, sysfs "capability" file Lennart Poettering
2024-04-08 17:43 ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2024-04-08 18:41 ` Keith Busch
2024-04-08 20:23 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-08 22:41 ` Keith Busch
2024-04-09 6:09 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-04-09 8:19 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-09 14:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-09 15:17 ` Jens Axboe
2024-04-16 9:26 ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2024-04-17 15:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-16 14:18 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-16 14:22 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2024-04-16 14:25 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-16 14:33 ` Jens Axboe
2024-04-24 8:09 ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2024-04-25 13:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-16 14:23 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-16 14:44 ` Keith Busch
2024-04-17 15:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-17 15:48 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-17 15:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-17 16:10 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-17 16:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-17 16:26 ` Lennart Poettering
2024-04-17 16:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-18 6:28 ` Hannes Reinecke
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