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From: MANISH PANDEY <quic_mapa@quicinc.com>
To: <qyousef@layalina.io>
Cc: <axboe@kernel.dk>, <mingo@kernel.org>, <peterz@infradead.org>,
	<vincent.guittot@linaro.org>, <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	<linux-block@vger.kernel.org>, <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, <kailash@google.com>,
	<tkjos@google.com>, <dhavale@google.com>, <bvanassche@google.com>,
	<quic_nitirawa@quicinc.com>, <quic_cang@quicinc.com>,
	<quic_rampraka@quicinc.com>, <quic_narepall@quicinc.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Regarding patch "block/blk-mq: Don't complete locally if capacities are different"
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:55:31 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d2009fca-57db-49e6-a874-e8291c3e27f5@quicinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10c7f773-7afd-4409-b392-5d987a4024e4@quicinc.com>

++ adding linux-kernel group

On 7/31/2024 7:16 PM, MANISH PANDEY wrote:
> Hi Qais Yousef,
> Recently we observed below patch has been merged
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240223155749.2958009-3-qyousef@layalina.io
> 
> This patch is causing performance degradation ~20% in Random IO along 
> with significant drop in Sequential IO performance. So we would like to 
> revert this patch as it impacts MCQ UFS devices heavily. Though Non MCQ 
> devices are also getting impacted due to this.
> 
> We have several concerns with the patch
> 1. This patch takes away the luxury of affining best possible cpus from 
>    device drivers and limits driver to fall in same group of CPUs.
> 
> 2. Why can't device driver use irq affinity to use desired CPUs to 
> complete the IO request, instead of forcing it from block layer.
> 
> 3. Already CPUs are grouped based on LLC, then if a new categorization 
> is required ?
> 
>> big performance impact if the IO request
>> was done from a CPU with higher capacity but the interrupt is serviced
>> on a lower capacity CPU.
> 
> This patch doesn't considers the issue of contention in submission path 
> and completion path. Also what if we want to complete the request of 
> smaller capacity CPU to Higher capacity CPU?
> Shouldn't a device driver take care of this and allow the vendors to use 
> the best possible combination they want to use?
> Does it considers MCQ devices and different SQ<->CQ mappings?
> 
>> Without the patch I see the BLOCK softirq always running on little cores
>> (where the hardirq is serviced). With it I can see it running on all
>> cores.
> 
> why we can't use echo 2 > rq_affinity to force complete on the same
> group of CPUs from where request was initiated?
> Also why to force vendors to always use SOFTIRQ for completion?
> We should be flexible to either complete the IO request via IPI, HARDIRQ 
> or SOFTIRQ.
> 
> 
> An SoC can have different CPU configuration possible and this patch 
> forces a restriction on the completion path. This problem is more worse 
> in MCQ devices as we can have different SQ<->CQ mapping.
> 
> So we would like to revert the patch. Please let us know if any concerns?
> 
> Regards
> Manish Pandey

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-01  9:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-31 13:46 Regarding patch "block/blk-mq: Don't complete locally if capacities are different" MANISH PANDEY
2024-08-01  9:25 ` MANISH PANDEY [this message]
2024-08-01 16:05   ` Qais Yousef
2024-08-02  9:03 ` Christian Loehle
2024-08-05  2:07   ` Qais Yousef
2024-08-05 10:18     ` Christian Loehle
2024-08-05 17:24       ` MANISH PANDEY
2024-08-09  0:47         ` Qais Yousef
2024-08-09  0:23       ` Qais Yousef
2024-08-13 16:20         ` Christian Loehle
2024-09-01 17:25           ` Qais Yousef
2024-08-05 17:17     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-08-05 17:35       ` MANISH PANDEY
2024-08-05 17:52         ` Bart Van Assche
2024-08-08  6:05           ` MANISH PANDEY
2024-08-09  0:36             ` Qais Yousef
2024-08-11 17:41             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-08-12 18:15               ` Sandeep Dhavale
2024-08-21 12:29                 ` MANISH PANDEY
2024-08-21 17:22                   ` Bart Van Assche
2024-08-22 10:46                     ` MANISH PANDEY
2024-08-22 14:24                       ` Bart Van Assche
2024-08-23  7:57                         ` MANISH PANDEY
2024-08-23 12:03                           ` Christian Loehle
2024-08-23 13:49                             ` MANISH PANDEY
2024-08-23 14:12                               ` Bart Van Assche
2024-08-26 17:32                                 ` Christian Loehle
2024-09-01 17:13                   ` Qais Yousef
2024-08-09  0:28       ` Qais Yousef

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