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From: Linlin Zhang <linlin.zhang@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/11] FBE virtualization: inline encryption for virtio-blk guests
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2026 14:21:50 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e09d1622-29aa-43f3-8e3f-776dc78c3641@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d81e347e-8ca7-40a1-a428-5bce6f0d4b02@oss.qualcomm.com>



On 8/28/2026 11:37 PM, Linlin Zhang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 8/28/2026 2:42 AM, Eric Biggers wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2026 at 09:07:09AM -0700, Linlin Zhang wrote:
>>> From: linlzhan <linlin.zhang@oss.qualcomm.com>
>>>
>>> Current virtio-blk does not provide a mechanism for a guest to
>>> program hardware keys or submit encrypted I/O using pre-programmed
>>> keyslots.  It drops the crypto context when issuing a bio request
>>> to the virtio-blk queue, preventing inline-encryption-based FBE
>>> on virtio block devices.
>>>
>>> This series enables File-Based Encryption in guest VMs on Qualcomm
>>> GVM platforms where the ICE inline encryption hardware is shared
>>> between the host and guests.  In this environment the guest kernel
>>> has no access to the ICE hardware directly; it supplies a virtual
>>> keyslot index and data unit number with each encrypted I/O request
>>> via VIRTIO_BLK_F_INLINE_ENCRYPTION, and the host must translate the
>>> virtual slot to a physical ICE keyslot and submit the bio — without
>>> transferring raw key material across the VM boundary.
>>
>> This seems to be designed incorrectly by not making virtio-blk itself
>> support key programming and eviction.  That complicates things
>> significantly by then having to handle the key programming and eviction
>> out-of-band using Qualcomm-specific SCM calls.  It also means that
>> adding other implementations of this would be very difficult.
>>
>> There are some claims that not transmitting keys across the VM boundary
>> is desirable.  But that doesn't seem meaningful, given that all the I/O
>> is transmitted across that boundary in plaintext anyway, and also it
>> seems that hardware-wrapped keys will be supported too.
>>
>> Please make virtio-blk support the key programming, eviction, and
>> HW-wrapped key management operations that are needed for this to work.
>>
>> - Eric
> 
> Thanks for your comments!
> 
> Not making virtio-blk itself support key programming and eviction is
> something done deliberately. Based on that HW-wrapped key management
> operations are also handled in the out-of-band path.
> 
> There are bellow 2 approaches I investigated to let virtio-blk programming
> the key.
> 
>   1. virtio_blk implements blk_crypto_ll_ops interfaces, including program
>      key and evict key interfaces.(Same to 'the virtio-blk interface standardized
>      blk_crypto_ll_ops requests' mentioned by Stefan in the virtio SPEC thread)
> 
>      The guest's block crypto profile manages the keyslot in virtual slot
>      format in this scenario.
> 
>       - block crypto key and virt_slot index it passed to the hypervisor's
>        (EL2) device emulation (QEMU, using QEMU in the following) which
>        runs in userspace of the host. Besides of transferring the virtual
>        slot to the physical slot, a programming block crypto key UAPI need
>        be added. Follow current blk-crypto design, it may be like
>        BLKCRYPTOGENERATEKEY. I thought this results in a security risk that
>        allows userspace process a key into a key slot.
> 
>      - For key eviction, it's similar to above key programming handling, also
>        need a key eviction in blk IOCTLs, but leads to the security risk
>        that allow userspace client to evict a key in a key slot.
> 
>     virt_slot, DUN and DUSize is appended to virtblk request during crypto
>     I/O.
> 
>   2. virtio_blk implements blk_crypto_ll_ops interfaces, excluding program
>      key and evict key interfaces.
> 
>      The guest's block crypto profile doesn't manage keyslot for the guest,
>      the host's block crypto profile manages keyslot for both the guest and
>      the host. The trigger of key programming operation is moved from the
>      guest to the host.
> 
>        - The whole block crypto key (key size, key bytes, blk_crypto_config)
>          and DUN are appended to the virtblk request during IO, a little
>          high payload.
> 
>          The backend parses the crypto message in the virtio queue and
>          construct a block crypto key and DUN for the bio_crypto_ctx
>          set to the BIO. So that the IO flow in the host can program
>          the key. 
> 
>          The question is that the blk-crypto-profile distinguishs the
>          block crypto key via the key's address. But the host has
>          different key addresses for the programming and eviction key
>          operations of the same block crypto key from GVM, because the
>          key is re-constructed in the host for the key program and
>          eviction operations. 
> 
>          To fix it, the approach I thought is maintaining a new key
>          hash table in the backend, and comparing the block crypto key
>          content and DUN parsed from virtio queue with that in the key
>          hash table. 
>          My major concern is that this need keep the keys synchronization
>          b/w this new hash table and the blk-crypto-profile's hash table
>          carefully, avoiding that key is still present in the
>          blk-crypto-profile's hash table, but removed in backend hash
>          table. Another point is that the whole block crypto key and
>          DUN are appended into virtio block request per crypto I/O.
> 
>        - For key eviction, adding a key eviction in blk IOCTLs allows
>          userspace client to evict a key in a key slot. I thought this
>          is a security concern.

Correction.

The key eviction operation is also moved from the Guest's blk_crypto_profile
to the Host's blk_crypto_profile. As a result, the entire block crypto key
(including the key size, key material, and blk_crypto_config) is appended to
the virtblk request. The backend parses the supplied blk_crypto_key, looks
it up in its key hash table, and can then invoke blk_crypto_evict_key() to
evict the corresponding key from the ICE keyslot. Unlike Approach 1, Approach
2 does not allow the guest to specify the keyslot to be evicted through the
block ioctl interface.

I'm appreciated if you can share your insights and thoughts about these 3
approaches.

> 
> 
>      This option doesn't need map virt_slot to physical one.
> 
> 
> Taking all the above into account, I made a compromise to implement
> blk_crypto_ll_ops interfaces in a out-of-band path, which lets the virtio
> blk only need focus on the data path. I agree that it is complex than
> the second option mentioned in the above, but small payload (only
> virt_slot, DUN, DUSize) in the virtio block request and no security
> risk of key eviction from userspace.
> 
> 
> I would like to hear your thoughts about the above and am appreciated
> if you could share your insights about the design of inline
> encryption in virtio block.
> 
> Regards,
> Linlin
> 
> 
> 


      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-08-31  6:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-27 16:07 [PATCH v1 00/11] FBE virtualization: inline encryption for virtio-blk guests Linlin Zhang
2026-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCH v1 01/11] virtio_blk: add inline encryption support Linlin Zhang
2026-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCH v1 02/11] soc: qcom: add crypto_virt backend for virtio-blk inline crypto Linlin Zhang
2026-08-31  6:56   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCH v1 03/11] soc: qcom: crypto_virt: add support for create, prepare and import keys Linlin Zhang
2026-08-31  6:58   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCH v1 04/11] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: add binding for qcom,crypto-virt Linlin Zhang
2026-08-31  7:01   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCH v1 05/11] blk-crypto: add slot-based inline encryption path Linlin Zhang
2026-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCH v1 06/11] scsi: ufs: core: add slot path to ufshcd_prepare_lrbp_crypto Linlin Zhang
2026-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCH v1 07/11] blk-crypto: move bio_crypt_dun_increment() to the public header Linlin Zhang
2026-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCH v1 08/11] block: add /dev/blk-crypto-proxy for host-side virtio-blk inline encryption Linlin Zhang
2026-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCH v1 09/11] soc: qcom: add ICE keyslot partitioning driver for guest VMs Linlin Zhang
2026-08-31  7:02   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCH v1 10/11] blk-crypto: add slot_offset to blk_crypto_profile Linlin Zhang
2026-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCH v1 11/11] scsi: ufs: ufs-qcom: support ICE keyslot partitioning for guest VMs Linlin Zhang
2026-08-31  7:03   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-27 18:42 ` [PATCH v1 00/11] FBE virtualization: inline encryption for virtio-blk guests Eric Biggers
2026-08-28 15:37   ` Linlin Zhang
2026-08-28 15:56     ` Linlin Zhang
2026-08-31  6:21     ` Linlin Zhang [this message]

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