From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@nvidia.com>
Cc: linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/7] mm/gup: introduce pin_user_page()
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 10:30:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e0ff6c64-7ab0-6300-7427-5a3e4364661e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f531a5be-9698-eb08-f10d-75adc2028483@nvidia.com>
>>>> That might be problematic and possibly the wrong approach, depending on
>> *what* we're actually pinning and what we're intending to do with that.
>>
>> My assumption would have been that this interface is to duplicate a pin
>
> I see that I need to put more documentation here, so people don't have
> to assume things... :)
>
Yes, please :)
>> on a page, which would be perfectly fine, because the page actually saw
>> a FOLL_PIN previously.
>>
>> We're taking a pin on a page that we haven't obtained via FOLL_PIN if I
>> understand correctly. Which raises the questions, how do we end up with
>> the pages here, and what are we doing to do with them (use them like we
>> obtained them via FOLL_PIN?)?
>>
>>
>> If it's converting FOLL_GET -> FOLL_PIN manually, then we're bypassing
>> FOLL_PIN special handling in GUP code:
>>
>> page = get_user_pages(FOLL_GET)
>> pin_user_page(page)
>> put_page(page)
>
> No, that's not where this is going at all. The idea, which I now see
> needs better documentation, is to handle file-backed pages. Only.
>
> We're not converting from one type to another, nor are we doubling up.
> We're just keeping the pin type consistent so that the vast block-
> processing machinery can take pages in and handle them, then release
> them at the end with bio_release_pages(), which will call
> unpin_user_pages().
>
Ah, okay, that makes sense. Glad to hear that we're intending to use
this with !anon pages only.
>>
>>
>> For anonymous pages, we'll bail out for example once we have
>>
>> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20220224122614.94921-14-david@redhat.com
>>
>> Because the conditions for pinned anonymous pages might no longer hold.
>>
>> If we won't call pin_user_page() on anonymous pages, it would be fine.
>
> We won't, and in fact, I should add WARN_ON_ONCE(PageAnon(page)) to
> this function.
Exactly what I would have suggested,
>
>> But then, I still wonder how we come up the "struct page" here.
>>
>
> From the file system. For example, the NFS-direct and fuse conversions
> in the last patches show how that works.
>
> Thanks for this feedback, this is very helpful.
Thanks for clarifying, John!
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-01 9:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-25 8:50 [RFC PATCH 0/7] block, fs: convert Direct IO to FOLL_PIN John Hubbard
2022-02-25 8:50 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] mm/gup: introduce pin_user_page() John Hubbard
2022-02-28 13:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-02-28 21:14 ` John Hubbard
2022-03-01 8:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-01 8:40 ` John Hubbard
2022-03-01 9:30 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2022-02-25 8:50 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] block: add dio_w_*() wrappers for pin, unpin user pages John Hubbard
2022-02-25 8:50 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] block, fs: assert that key paths use iovecs, and nothing else John Hubbard
2022-02-25 8:50 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] block, bio, fs: initial pin_user_pages_fast() changes John Hubbard
2022-02-25 8:50 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] NFS: direct-io: convert to FOLL_PIN pages John Hubbard
2022-02-25 8:50 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] fuse: convert direct IO paths to use FOLL_PIN John Hubbard
2022-02-25 8:50 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] block, direct-io: flip the switch: use pin_user_pages_fast() John Hubbard
2022-02-25 12:05 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] block, fs: convert Direct IO to FOLL_PIN Jan Kara
2022-02-25 16:14 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-25 16:40 ` Jan Kara
2022-02-25 19:36 ` John Hubbard
2022-02-25 22:20 ` John Hubbard
2022-02-25 13:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-02-25 21:10 ` John Hubbard
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