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From: Igor Konopko <igor.j.konopko@intel.com>
To: "Javier González" <javier@javigon.com>,
	"Hans Holmberg" <hans@owltronix.com>
Cc: "Matias Bjørling" <mb@lightnvm.io>,
	"Hans Holmberg" <hans.holmberg@cnexlabs.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/13] lightnvm: pblk: Count all read errors in stats
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 13:42:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e3fb769f-d20a-d5d3-42f7-5b62fc5d5a79@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <04F04C0B-25B6-4F1A-AEB6-36E4D6BB32B7@javigon.com>



On 04.03.2019 12:45, Javier González wrote:
> 
>> On 4 Mar 2019, at 12.41, Hans Holmberg <hans@owltronix.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:23 AM Javier González <javier@javigon.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4 Mar 2019, at 10.02, Hans Holmberg <hans.ml.holmberg@owltronix.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Igor: Have you seen this happening in real life?
>>>>
>>>> I think it would be better to count all expected errors and put them
>>>> in the right bucket (without spamming dmesg). If we need a new bucket
>>>> for i.e. vendor-specific-errors, let's do that instead.

Generally I'm seeing different types of errors (which are typically as 
Javier mention controller errors) in cases such as hot drive removal, etc.

We can skip that patch, since this are kind of corner cases. I can also
create new type of pblk stats, sth. like "controller errors", which 
would collect all the other unexpected errors in one place instead of 
mixing them with real read/write errors as I did.

>>>>
>>>> Someone wiser than me told me that every error print in the log is a
>>>> potential customer call.
>>>>
>>>> Javier: Yeah, I think S.M.A.R.T is the way to deliver this
>>>> information. Why can't we let the drives expose this info and remove
>>>> this from pblk? What's blocking that?
>>>
>>> Until now the spec. We added some new log information in Denali exactly
>>> for this. But since pblk supports OCSSD 1.2 and 2.0 I think it is needed to
>>> have it here, at least for debugging.
>>
>> Why add it to the spec? Why not use whatever everyone else is using?
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T. :
>> "S.M.A.R.T. (Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology; often
>> written as SMART) is a monitoring system included in computer hard
>> disk drives (HDDs), solid-state drives (SSDs),[1] and eMMC drives. Its
>> primary function is to detect and report various indicators of drive
>> reliability with the intent of anticipating imminent hardware
>> failures."
>> Sounds like what we want here.
> 
> I know what smart is… You need to define the fields. Maybe you want to
> read Denali again - the extensions are couple with smart.
> 
>> For debugging, a trace point or something(i.e. BPF) would be a better
>> solution that would not impact hot-path performance.
> 
> Cool. Look forward to the patches ;)
> 
> Javier
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-04 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-27 17:14 [PATCH 00/13] lightnvm: bugfixes and improvements Igor Konopko
2019-02-27 17:14 ` [PATCH 01/13] lightnvm: pblk: Line reference fix in GC Igor Konopko
2019-03-01 12:20   ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04  7:18   ` Javier González
2019-03-04 12:40   ` Matias Bjørling
2019-02-27 17:14 ` [PATCH 02/13] lightnvm: pblk: Gracefully handle GC data malloc fail Igor Konopko
2019-02-28 17:08   ` Javier González
2019-03-01 12:50     ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 12:38       ` Igor Konopko
2019-02-27 17:14 ` [PATCH 03/13] lightnvm: pblk: Fix put line back behaviour Igor Konopko
2019-03-01 13:27   ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04  7:22   ` Javier González
2019-02-27 17:14 ` [PATCH 04/13] lightnvm: pblk: Rollback in gc read Igor Konopko
2019-03-04  7:38   ` Javier González
2019-03-04  8:44     ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 12:39       ` Igor Konopko
2019-03-04 12:42         ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 12:49   ` Matias Bjørling
2019-02-27 17:14 ` [PATCH 05/13] lightnvm: pblk: Count all read errors in stats Igor Konopko
2019-03-04  7:42   ` Javier González
2019-03-04  9:02     ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04  9:23       ` Javier González
2019-03-04 11:41         ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 11:45           ` Javier González
2019-03-04 12:42             ` Igor Konopko [this message]
2019-03-04 12:48               ` Hans Holmberg
2019-02-27 17:14 ` [PATCH 06/13] lightnvm: pblk: Ensure that erase is chunk aligned Igor Konopko
2019-03-04  7:48   ` Javier González
2019-03-04  9:05     ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04  9:11       ` Javier González
2019-03-04 11:43         ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 12:44           ` Igor Konopko
2019-03-04 12:57             ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 13:00             ` Matias Bjørling
2019-03-05  8:20               ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-05  8:26                 ` Igor Konopko
2019-03-05  8:40                   ` Hans Holmberg
     [not found]                     ` <61b7e62a-d229-95b1-2572-336ab1bd67cb@intel.com>
2019-03-05  8:55                       ` Hans Holmberg
2019-02-27 17:14 ` [PATCH 07/13] lightnvm: pblk: Cleanly fail when there is not enough memory Igor Konopko
2019-03-04  7:53   ` Javier González
2019-03-04  9:24     ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 12:46       ` Igor Konopko
2019-02-27 17:14 ` [PATCH 08/13] lightnvm: pblk: Set proper read stutus in bio Igor Konopko
2019-03-04  8:03   ` Javier González
2019-03-04  9:35     ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04  9:48       ` Javier González
2019-03-04 12:14         ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 12:51           ` Igor Konopko
2019-03-04 13:08             ` Matias Bjørling
2019-03-04 13:45               ` Javier González
2019-03-04 15:12                 ` Matias Bjørling
2019-03-05  6:43                   ` Javier González
2019-03-04 13:04         ` Matias Bjørling
2019-03-04 13:21           ` Javier González
2019-02-27 17:14 ` [PATCH 09/13] lightnvm: pblk: Kick writer for flush requests Igor Konopko
2019-03-04  8:08   ` Javier González
2019-03-04  9:39     ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 12:52       ` Igor Konopko
2019-02-27 17:14 ` [PATCH 10/13] lightnvm: pblk: Reduce L2P DRAM footprint Igor Konopko
2019-03-04  8:17   ` Javier González
2019-03-04  9:29     ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 13:11   ` Matias Bjørling
2019-02-27 17:14 ` [PATCH 11/13] lightnvm: pblk: Remove unused smeta_ssec field Igor Konopko
2019-03-04  8:21   ` Javier González
2019-03-04  9:40     ` Hans Holmberg
2019-02-27 17:14 ` [PATCH 12/13] lightnvm: pblk: close opened chunks Igor Konopko
2019-03-04  8:27   ` Javier González
2019-03-04 10:05     ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 12:56       ` Igor Konopko
2019-03-04 13:03         ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 13:19       ` Matias Bjørling
2019-03-04 13:48         ` Javier González
2019-03-04 13:18     ` Matias Bjørling
2019-03-04 13:47       ` Javier González
2019-02-27 17:14 ` [PATCH 13/13] lightnvm: Inherit mdts from the parent nvme device Igor Konopko
2019-03-04  9:05   ` Javier González
2019-03-04 11:30     ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 11:44       ` Javier González
2019-03-04 12:22         ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 13:04           ` Igor Konopko
2019-03-04 13:16             ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 14:06             ` Javier González
2019-03-04 13:19           ` Javier González
2019-03-04 13:25             ` Matias Bjørling
2019-03-04 13:44               ` Javier González
2019-03-04 14:24                 ` Hans Holmberg
2019-03-04 14:27                   ` Javier González
2019-03-04 14:58                 ` Matias Bjørling
2019-02-28 16:36 ` [PATCH 00/13] lightnvm: bugfixes and improvements Matias Bjørling
2019-02-28 17:15   ` Javier González
2019-03-01 10:23   ` Hans Holmberg

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