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From: Vincent Mailhol <mailhol@kernel.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/19] x86: define DPS root partition type UUIDs
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2026 22:19:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea71a433-fdcc-429d-adce-14e9fb726957@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <03be57ae-0e41-4b8a-adc5-bdd85ccce951@intel.com>

On 15/06/2026 at 18:46, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 6/15/26 09:09, Vincent Mailhol wrote:
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_64
>> +#define DPS_ROOT_PARTITION_TYPE_UUID "4f68bce3-e8cd-4db1-96e7-fbcaf984b709"
>> +#else
>> +#define DPS_ROOT_PARTITION_TYPE_UUID "44479540-f297-41b2-9af7-d131d5f0458a"
>> +#endif
> 
> This doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. 64-bit kernels can run
> 32-bit userspace just fine.
> 
> But this #ifdef as proposed means that only a 32-bit *OR* 64-bit kernel
> can auto-discover a given partition.
> 
> I kinda think you should just have an array of strings for these things,
> maybe glued together with some preprocessor magic. Logically something
> like this:
> 
> const char* const uuids[] = {
> #ifdef CONFIG_ARM64
> 	"b921b045-1df0-41c3-af44-4c6f280d3fae"
> #endif
> #ifdef CONFIG_X86_64
> 	"4f68bce3-e8cd-4db1-96e7-fbcaf984b709",
> #endif
> #if defined(CONFIG_X86) && defined(CONFIG_COMPAT32)
> 	"44479540-f297-41b2-9af7-d131d5f0458a",
> #endif
> ...
> };
> 
> ... and then search the array. I honestly don't think you need to
> sprinkle UUIDs all over the architectures.
> 
> It could probably also be done almost entirely in Kconfig. This could be
> in, say block/partitions/Kconfig, or arch/*/Kconfig:
> 
> config DPS_ROOT_PARTITION_TYPE_UUID_1
> 	string
>         default "4f68bce3-e8cd-4db1-96e7-fbcaf984b709" if X86_64
> 	default "b921b045-1df0-41c3-af44-4c6f280d3fae" if ARM64
> 	...
> 
> config DPS_ROOT_PARTITION_TYPE_UUID_2
> 	string
>         default "44479540-f297-41b2-9af7-..." if X86 && COMPAT_32
> 
> const char* const uuids[] = {
> #ifdef CONFIG_DPS_ROOT_PARTITION_TYPE_UUID_1
> 	CONFIG_DPS_ROOT_PARTITION_TYPE_UUID_1
> #endif
> #ifdef CONFIG_DPS_ROOT_PARTITION_TYPE_UUID_2
> 	CONFIG_DPS_ROOT_PARTITION_TYPE_UUID_2
> #endif
> ...
> };
> 
> There are a lot of ways to do this. I'm just not a super big fan of the
> current proposal.
> 
> So, boiling it down:
> 
> 1. Should more than one UUID be supported per kernel build?

I didn't pay much attention to this, but this is a very good point.

The Discoverable Partitions Specification is not clear about this
point. All it has to say is:

  On systems *with matching architecture*, the first partition with
  this type UUID on the disk containing the active EFI ESP is
  automatically mounted to the root directory /.

Does an x86_32 system match an x86_64 partition? Wouldn't make sense.
Does an x86_64 system match an x86_32 partition? Could be.

My feeling is that the intent was an *exact* match. This is supported
by the implementation in systemd which just check against
SD_GPT_ROOT_NATIVE (which corresponds to the exact match).

  https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/src/udev/udev-builtin-blkid.c#L243-L247

*But* there are some hints about a secondary UUID. In my terminal I have:

  $ systemd-id128 show root root-secondary
  NAME           ID                              
  root           4f68bce3e8cd4db196e7fbcaf984b709
  root-secondary 44479540f29741b29af7d131d5f0458a

where root is the x86_64 and root-secondary is x86_32. So although I
see no match logic in the code, the ID table have it!

That said, your points make sense to me, and I would be supportive to
allow a search for a secondary UUID as a kernel extension. If we do
so, I think the only constraint should be to make sure that we check
for the exact match first (e.g. check x86_64 type before x86_32 type).

Would that make sense?

> 2. Should the UUIDs be defined in arch code or generic code?

I think that you convinced me to put it in generic code.

> 3. Kconfig or #ifdefs?

I would say Kconfig. If we go for the exact match only, that would be:

  CONFIG_DPS_ROOT_PARTITION_TYPE_UUID

If we allow more as an extension, that would become:

  - CONFIG_DPS_ROOT_PARTITION_TYPE_UUID for the exact match
  - CONFIG_DPS_ROOT_PARTITION_TYPE_UUID_SECONDARY for the compatible
    one.

The drawback is that some entries will be in both:

  config DPS_ROOT_PARTITION_TYPE_UUID
  	string
  	  default "4f68bce3-e8cd-4db1-96e7-fbcaf984b709" if X86_64
  	  default "44479540-f297-41b2-9af7-d131d5f0458a" if X86

  config DPS_ROOT_PARTITION_TYPE_UUID_SECONDARY
  	string
  	  default "44479540-f297-41b2-9af7-d131d5f0458a" if X86_64 && COMPAT_32

And I don't think we need more than two.


A bonus question: should those Kconfig entries be hidden? I prefer the
hidden option because it doesn't add that much code and I thought this
was not worth bothering the user with one more menuconfig question.
But I would be happy to change if people this this is worth an
menuconfig entry.


Yours sincerely,
Vincent Mailhol

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-15 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-15 16:08 [PATCH 00/19] init: discoverable root partitions, a.k.a. an omittable "root=" cmdline option Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:08 ` [PATCH 01/19] init: add DPS root partition type UUID capability Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:08 ` [PATCH 02/19] alpha: define DPS root partition type UUID Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:08 ` [PATCH 03/19] arc: " Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 04/19] arm: " Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 05/19] arm64: " Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 06/19] loongarch: " Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 07/19] mips: define DPS root partition type UUIDs Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 08/19] parisc: define DPS root partition type UUID Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 20:02   ` James Bottomley
2026-06-15 20:27     ` Helge Deller
2026-06-15 20:43       ` Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 09/19] powerpc: define DPS root partition type UUIDs Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 10/19] riscv: " Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 11/19] s390: " Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 12/19] x86: " Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:46   ` Dave Hansen
2026-06-15 18:05     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-15 20:39       ` Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 20:19     ` Vincent Mailhol [this message]
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 13/19] block: store GPT partition type UUID Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 14/19] block: add early_lookup_bdev_by_type_uuid() Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 15/19] block: store GPT attributes as a raw value Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 16/19] block: don't discover partition with DPS no-auto GPT attribute Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 17/19] init: factor out root device lookup into lookup_root_device() Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 18/19] init: discover root by DPS partition type UUID Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 16:09 ` [PATCH 19/19] docs: document discoverable root partitions Vincent Mailhol
2026-06-15 17:04 ` [PATCH 00/19] init: discoverable root partitions, a.k.a. an omittable "root=" cmdline option Al Viro
2026-06-15 20:33   ` Vincent Mailhol

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