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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@wdc.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Shaun Tancheff <shaun@tancheff.com>,
	Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@hgst.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 6/7] sd: Implement support for ZBC devices
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:21:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x497f94scco.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq1y41lf9qk.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net> (Martin K. Petersen's message of "Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:44:35 -0400")

"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com> writes:

>>>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com> writes:
>
> Jeff,
>
> Jeff> Are power of 2 zone sizes required by the standard?  I see why
> Jeff> you've done this, but I wonder if we're artificially limiting the
> Jeff> implementation, and whether there will be valid devices on the
> Jeff> market that simply won't work with Linux because of this.
>
> Standards are deliberately written to be permissive. But Linux doesn't
> support arbitrary sector sizes either even though the spec allows it. We
> always pick a reasonably sane subset of features to implement and this
> case is no different.
>
> After some discussion we decided to rip out all the complexity that was
> required to facilitate crazy drive layouts. As a result, the code is now
> in a state where we can actually merge it. The hope is that by picking a
> specific configuration subset and widely advertising it we can influence
> the market.
>
> Also, I am not aware of anybody actually asking the drive vendors to
> support crazy zone configurations.

That's fine with me.  I didn't see any mention of this design decision
in the patch logs, though, and given that I'm not intimately involved, I
asked the question.

Thanks,
Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-19 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-18  6:40 [PATCH v8 0/7] ZBC / Zoned block device support Damien Le Moal
2016-10-18  6:40 ` [PATCH v8 1/7] block: Add 'zoned' queue limit Damien Le Moal
2016-10-18  6:42   ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-10-18  6:40 ` [PATCH v8 2/7] blk-sysfs: Add 'chunk_sectors' to sysfs attributes Damien Le Moal
2016-10-18 16:43   ` Jeff Moyer
2016-10-18 23:17     ` Damien Le Moal
2016-10-18  6:40 ` [PATCH v8 3/7] block: update chunk_sectors in blk_stack_limits() Damien Le Moal
2016-10-18  6:40 ` [PATCH v8 4/7] block: Define zoned block device operations Damien Le Moal
2016-10-18  6:40 ` [PATCH v8 5/7] block: Implement support for zoned block devices Damien Le Moal
2016-10-18  6:40 ` [PATCH v8 6/7] sd: Implement support for ZBC devices Damien Le Moal
2016-10-18 16:58   ` Jeff Moyer
2016-10-18 18:22     ` Shaun Tancheff
2016-10-19 13:23       ` Jeff Moyer
2016-10-19  0:44     ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-10-19 13:21       ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2016-10-19  0:47   ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-10-18  6:40 ` [PATCH v8 7/7] blk-zoned: implement ioctls Damien Le Moal
2016-10-18 15:58 ` [PATCH v8 0/7] ZBC / Zoned block device support Jens Axboe
2016-10-18 23:15   ` Damien Le Moal
2016-10-19  0:46   ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-10-19  1:49     ` Jens Axboe
2016-10-19  1:53       ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-10-19  1:59         ` Jens Axboe

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