linux-block.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Nitesh Shetty <nj.shetty@samsung.com>
Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	Javier Gonzalez <javier.gonz@samsung.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@meta.com>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"io-uring@vger.kernel.org" <io-uring@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"joshi.k@samsung.com" <joshi.k@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv10 0/9] write hints with nvme fdp, scsi streams
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 15:37:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1a5d9op6p.fsf@ca-mkp.ca.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241205080342.7gccjmyqydt2hb7z@ubuntu> (Nitesh Shetty's message of "Thu, 5 Dec 2024 13:33:42 +0530")


Nitesh,

> This approach looks simpler to me as well.
> But where do we store the read sector info before sending write.
> I see 2 approaches here,

> 1. Should it be part of a payload along with write ? We did something
> similar in previous series which was not liked by Christoph and Bart.

> 2. Or driver should store it as part of an internal list inside
> namespace/ctrl data structure ? As Bart pointed out, here we might
> need to send one more fail request later if copy_write fails to land
> in same driver.

The problem with option 2 is that when you're doing copy between two
different LUNs, then you suddenly have to maintain state in one kernel
object about stuff relating to another kernel object. I think that is
messy. Seems unnecessarily complex.

With option 1, for single command offload, there is no payload to worry
about. Only command completion status matters for the COPY_IN phase. And
once you have completion, you can issue a COPY_OUT. Done.

For token based offload, I really don't understand the objection to
storing the cookie in the bio. I fail to see the benefit of storing the
cookie in the driver and then have the bio refer to something else which
maps to the actual cookie returned by the storage. Again that introduces
object lifetime complexity. It's much simpler to just have the cookie be
part of the very command that is being executed. Once the COPY_IN
completes, you can either use the cookie or throw it away. Doesn't
matter. The device will time it out if you sit on it too long. And there
is zero state in the kernel outside of the memory for the cookie that
you, as the submitter, are responsible for deallocating.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-05 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-29 15:19 [PATCHv10 0/9] write hints with nvme fdp, scsi streams Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 1/9] block: use generic u16 for write hints Keith Busch
2024-10-29 17:21   ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 2/9] block: introduce max_write_hints queue limit Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 3/9] statx: add write hint information Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 4/9] block: allow ability to limit partition write hints Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-29 17:25   ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-30  4:46     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 20:11       ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 20:26         ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-30 20:37           ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 21:15             ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 5/9] block, fs: add write hint to kiocb Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 6/9] io_uring: enable per-io hinting capability Keith Busch
2024-11-07  2:09   ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 7/9] block: export placement hint feature Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 9/9] scsi: set permanent stream count in block limits Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-29 15:34     ` Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:37       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-29 15:38         ` Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:53           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-29 16:22             ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30  4:55               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 15:41                 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 15:45                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 15:48                     ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 15:50                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 16:42                         ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 16:57                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 17:05                             ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 17:15                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 17:23                             ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 22:32                             ` Keith Busch
2024-10-31  8:19                               ` Hans Holmberg
2024-10-31 13:02                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-31 14:06                                 ` Keith Busch
2024-11-01  7:16                                   ` Hans Holmberg
2024-11-01  8:19                                     ` Javier González
2024-11-01 14:49                                     ` Keith Busch
2024-11-06 14:26                                       ` Hans Holmberg
2024-10-30 16:59                 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-30 17:14                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 17:44                     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-01  1:03                       ` Jaegeuk Kim
2024-10-29 17:18     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-30  5:42       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-29 15:24 ` [PATCHv10 0/9] write hints with nvme fdp, scsi streams Christoph Hellwig
     [not found] ` <20241029151922.459139-9-kbusch@meta.com>
2024-10-30  0:24   ` [PATCHv10 8/9] nvme: enable FDP support Chaitanya Kulkarni
2024-11-05 15:50 ` [PATCHv10 0/9] write hints with nvme fdp, scsi streams Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-06 18:36   ` Keith Busch
2024-11-07 20:36   ` Keith Busch
2024-11-08 14:18     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-08 15:51       ` Keith Busch
2024-11-08 16:54         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-08 17:43           ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-11-08 18:51             ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-11  9:31               ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-11-11 17:45                 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-12 13:52                   ` Nitesh Shetty
2024-11-19  2:03                     ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-11-25 23:21                       ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-27  2:54                         ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-11-27 18:42                           ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-27 20:14                             ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-11-27 21:06                               ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-28  2:09                                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-11-28  8:51                                   ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-29  6:19                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-29  6:23                                       ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-28  3:24                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-28 15:21                               ` Keith Busch
2024-11-28 16:40                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-05  8:03                               ` Nitesh Shetty
2024-12-05 20:37                                 ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2024-12-10  0:58                                   ` Bart Van Assche
2024-12-10  2:20                                     ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-12-10  9:53                                       ` Nitesh Shetty
2024-12-10 21:58                                         ` Bart Van Assche
2024-12-10 19:41                                       ` Bart Van Assche
2024-12-11  9:36                                         ` Nitesh Shetty
2024-12-11 17:27                                           ` Bart Van Assche
2024-12-11 19:38                                         ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-12-10  7:12                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-10  8:05                                     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2024-12-10 10:58                                       ` hch
2024-12-10 19:21                                         ` Bart Van Assche
2024-12-11  4:07                                           ` Damien Le Moal
2024-12-11 21:06                                             ` Bart Van Assche
2024-12-11 21:21                                               ` Jaegeuk Kim
2024-12-11 19:41                                     ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-12-09 22:13                                 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-12-09 23:13                                   ` Damien Le Moal
2024-12-09 23:31                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-10  0:22                                     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-11  6:51             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-11  9:30               ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-11-11  9:37                 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2024-11-11  9:41                   ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-11-11  9:42                     ` hch
2024-11-11  9:43                     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2024-11-11 10:37                       ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-11-11  6:49           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-11  6:48         ` Christoph Hellwig

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=yq1a5d9op6p.fsf@ca-mkp.ca.oracle.com \
    --to=martin.petersen@oracle.com \
    --cc=bvanassche@acm.org \
    --cc=hch@lst.de \
    --cc=io-uring@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=javier.gonz@samsung.com \
    --cc=joshi.k@samsung.com \
    --cc=kbusch@kernel.org \
    --cc=kbusch@meta.com \
    --cc=linux-block@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=nj.shetty@samsung.com \
    --cc=willy@infradead.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).