From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Milan Broz <gmazyland@gmail.com>
Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, hch@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: sysfs-block: Clarify integrity sysfs attributes for non-PI metadata
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2025 21:28:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1pliuoqek.fsf@ca-mkp.ca.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8aaa0b97-ef9a-4bd8-8f8f-7c6869ff4c26@gmail.com> (Milan Broz's message of "Mon, 3 Mar 2025 19:52:48 +0100")
Milan,
> thanks for the clarification, should I just update the
> patch and add your signed-off line?
Feel free to tweak and submit. You can add a Co-developed-by tag, if you
wish.
> There can be "none" and "nop" here. My understanding was that "none"
> means the device does not support any metadata space (no T10 profile
> possible) while "nop" is that there is a metadata space but it is not
> used by any known T10 profile. Is it correct?
Looks like it, yes. We didn't originally register a profile unless the
device was capable. So the "nop" vs. "none" distinction is a recent
addition.
> - a flag that device supports non-PI metadata (is it that "nop"
> above?) If not, then there is no way to check for non-PI metadata for
> non-NVMe devices (as metadata_bytes is present on NVMe only)
Currently, yes.
> - maximal size of usable metadata (currently NVMe metadata_bytes
> field).
Aside from PI, SCSI doesn't support separate metadata. It does, however,
support larger logical block sizes. So 520, 524, 528, etc. And those
block sizes may be accompanied by 8 bytes of PI. But the non-PI metadata
is considered part of the logical block data and not a separate entity
like in NVMe.
So until NVMe happened, we didn't have a situation where we could
actually have non-PI metadata in a buffer separate from the data. And
the block integrity interface still reflects that.
> I think that metadata_bytes would be enough, if supported for all
> block devices (note we emulate metadata in dm-integrity, so it should
> be set there too).
That's fine with me. I do prefer to distinguish between PI and non-PI
metadata. Even though they may be sharing a buffer in the NVMe case.
--
Martin K. Petersen Oracle Linux Engineering
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-06 2:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2025-02-25 9:23 ` sysfs integrity fields use Milan Broz
2025-02-25 10:10 ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-02-25 10:44 ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-02-25 11:03 ` Milan Broz
2025-02-26 10:04 ` Kanchan Joshi
2025-02-25 15:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-26 14:02 ` Milan Broz
2025-02-27 14:46 ` [PATCH] docs: sysfs-block: Clarify integrity sysfs attributes for non-PI metadata Milan Broz
2025-03-03 17:25 ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-03-03 18:52 ` Milan Broz
2025-03-06 2:28 ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2025-03-18 15:44 ` [PATCH] docs: sysfs-block: Clarify integrity sysfs attributes Milan Broz
2025-03-20 7:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-20 11:44 ` Jens Axboe
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