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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Anuj Gupta/Anuj Gupta <anuj20.g@samsung.com>
Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	jack@suse.cz, anuj1072538@gmail.com, axboe@kernel.dk,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, brauner@kernel.org, hch@infradead.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	joshi.k@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] fs: add ioctl to query protection info capabilities
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2025 23:12:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1sekheek9.fsf@ca-mkp.ca.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fec86763-dd0e-4099-9347-e85aa4a22277@samsung.com> (Anuj Gupta's message of "Thu, 29 May 2025 12:42:45 +0530")


Hi Anuj!

I've been mulling over this for a few days...

> The block layer currently infers this by looking at the csum_type
> (e.g., in blk_integrity_generate). I assumed userspace could do the
> same, so I didn't expose a separate pi_tuple_size field. Do you see
> this differently?

When the block layer data integrity code was originally designed, the
concept of non-PI metadata didn't exist.

Then NVMe came along and we added support for opaque metadata in
addition to the PI.

As a result, the block layer considers the opaque metadata part of the
PI but it technically isn't. It really should be the other way around:
The PI is a subset of the metadata.

It would require quite a bit of rototilling to metadata-ize the block
layer plumbing at this point. But for a new user API, I do think we
should try to align with the architecture outlined in the standards.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-03  3:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20250527105950epcas5p1b53753ab614bf6bde4ffbf5165c7d263@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2025-05-27 10:42 ` [RFC] fs: add ioctl to query protection info capabilities Anuj Gupta
2025-05-29  3:02   ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-05-29  7:12     ` Anuj Gupta/Anuj Gupta
2025-05-29 17:59       ` Eric Biggers
2025-05-30  5:24         ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-03 18:43           ` Anuj gupta
2025-06-04  7:53             ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-04  7:57               ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-05  8:24                 ` Christian Brauner
2025-05-29 21:14       ` [RFC] " Andreas Dilger
2025-06-03  3:12       ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2025-06-03  6:30         ` [RFC] fs: " Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-04  1:48           ` Martin K. Petersen

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