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From: "Roberto" <rlr@bitween.com>
To: <bluez-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] sbc and fixed-point progress
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 23:56:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ac501c5a69b$3cd87e90$640aa8c0@ROBYHOME> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 001001c5a680$cfb641e0$0201a8c0@NBVICTOR

Thanks Victor I will also try to port to Symbian devices to see the
improvements ...Ciao Roberto

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Victor Shcherbatyuk" <victor@win.tue.nl>
To: <bluez-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] sbc and fixed-point progress


> Hello Brad,
>
> In the attachment is the patch to support fixed point encoding for
8-subband
> sbc codec. To compie ARM specific version USE_FIXED_ARM should be defined
> (currently in sbc/sbc.c should be in configuration?). It is possible I
broke
> your fixed point tables cause I've changed gen_fixed.c, but it should be
> easy fixable.
>
> Floating point implementation is optimized too, runs 30% faster on my
> AthlonXP. General fixed point (long long) runs slower than floating on my
> PC, which is strange... I do not have HW to test arm specific version real
> time, hope no suprises there, but I could have missed something when
> integrating it into sbc code (it decodes well, but how fast, I will try
only
> monday evening).
>
> Using a2play needs to tweak 87 magic number, otherwise it drops samples?
>
> Regards,
>      Victor.
>
> P.S. There are a lot of changes, I hope I didn't miss any... Please take a
> look, and let me know if something is wrong with it...
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brad Midgley" <bmidgley@xmission.com>
> To: <bluez-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 16:59
> Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] sbc and fixed-point progress
>
>
> > Victor,
> >
> > Great! Can you send me the output of "cvs diff -u" or the resulting
sbc.c?
> >
> > Even if it's noisy, we will just make it optional using the compile-time
> > option and improve it over time. Right now we have no way at all to
encode
> > on arm, so even a noisy encoder would be going in the right direction.
> >
> > I started working on the decoder but got stuck when I found that the
> > state->W and state->X variables sometimes needed large precision and
> > sometimes had large integer parts (ie in a naive fixed-point
> > implementation, they would need more than 32 bits). I was contemplating
> > keeping a large precision in the fixed point type but using a separate
> > integer for those variables' integer part.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > Victor Shcherbatyuk wrote:
> >> Hello Brad,
> >>
> >> FYI,
> >>
> >> Yesterday I converted encoder to fixed point (I did it a dirty way, so
> >> probably it doesn't have much of the value). I've converted each of the
> >> tables with different precision in such a way that the operations
> >> involving the tables (mults and adds) will not overflow 32 bit, and
> >> where necessary I pre-shift intermediate results to prevent overlowing.
> >> Currently the output  is a slightly noisy, but the purpose was to
> >> estimate required performance. The result is, in the current
> >> implementation, using fixed point it is just about to be enough to run
> >> on 400Mhz arm combined with mp3 decoder (mp3 piped though mad mp3
> >> decoder to sbc encoder to a2play). This means either something is wrong
> >> :) or SBC codec should be heavily optimized (3 - 5 times ?) to make it
> >> reasonable (memcopies is the first thing to optimize probably)...
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>      Victor.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: bluez-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> [mailto:bluez-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Brad
> >> Midgley
> >> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:03 AM
> >> To: BlueZ Mailing List
> >> Subject: [Bluez-devel] sbc and fixed-point progress
> >>
> >> Guys,
> >>
> >> just FYI...
> >>
> >> I found a decent fixed point multiply that preshifts the values before
> >> multiplying them. It keeps things in 32 bits. Most of the roundoff
error
> >> is taken care of in two additional terms. I think the result is
> >> reasonable.
> >>
(http://www.accu.org/acornsig/public/caugers/volume2/issue6/fixedpoint.h
> >> tml)
> >>
> >> If you compile with fixed-point on, libsbc will run both the fixed and
> >> floating point calculations and flag errors when they differ too much.
> >> It seems to be working well and has helped me catch a couple of
> >> fixed-point calculation problems.
> >>
> >> I have the decoder almost finished but I probably need to split some
> >> terms into integer and fixed-point components. Loading up
> >> frame->sb_sample for example can have a big integer part but we want to
> >> use most of the 32 bit fixed-point type for the fractional part.
> >>
> >> Brad
> >>
> >>
> >>
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-21 21:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-28 13:14 [Bluez-devel] sbc and fixed-point progress Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-07-28 14:59 ` Brad Midgley
2005-07-28 18:41   ` Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-07-28 19:21     ` Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-07-28 21:09       ` Brad Midgley
2005-08-21 18:47   ` Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-08-21 21:56     ` Roberto [this message]
2005-08-21 22:24       ` Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-08-22  6:15     ` Brad Midgley
2005-08-22  7:22       ` Brad Midgley
2005-09-03 15:33 ` Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-09-03 16:05   ` Brad Midgley
2005-09-06 21:53     ` Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-09-07  3:24       ` Brad Midgley
2005-09-03 19:36   ` [Bluez-devel] bcm2035 Oliver Ruiz Dorantes
2005-09-04 12:09     ` Paul Webster
2005-09-04 14:02       ` Oliver Ruiz Dorantes
2005-09-05  4:03         ` Paul Webster
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-09-07  7:14 [Bluez-devel] sbc and fixed-point progress Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-09-07 21:18 ` Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-08-26  8:07 Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-08-26  8:02 Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-08-27  3:01 ` Brad Midgley
2005-08-24 12:18 Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-08-24 16:40 ` Brad Midgley
2005-08-24 21:06   ` Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-08-26  5:10 ` Brad Midgley
2005-08-27 22:54   ` Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-08-28  5:44     ` Brad Midgley
2005-08-28 22:26       ` Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-08-23 20:42         ` Roberto
2005-08-29 17:08           ` Brad Midgley
2005-08-23 21:10             ` Roberto
2005-08-29 20:18               ` Brad Midgley
2005-08-29 21:04                 ` Roberto
2005-08-23 15:00 Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-08-01  8:20 Victor Shcherbatyuk
2005-08-01  8:41 ` Brad Midgley
2005-07-04  4:03 Brad Midgley
2005-07-04 11:11 ` Marcel Holtmann

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