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From: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
To: bluez-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] Implementing the PIN helper support
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:02:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1140526960.10008.25.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e1effdeb0602210440p141b4b7cta5c51ca87d135bde@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Claudio,

> Let me try expose some D-Bus features that can help us design the PIN
> Agent better...
> 
> Currently PinAgent uses the system bus connection. D-Bus is able to
> start applications automatically. Applications with user interfaces
> can't be started by system dbus-daemon, only the session can run this
> kind of applications. Using the session bus connection,  it is not
> necessary has a applet/or a application always active. The D-Bus
> starts the application when the first message is sent to the path.
> For more information read the section "Message Bus Starting Services":
> http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-specification.html

I don't think that this is the right way to go. We will have a Bluetooth
applet running (like NetworkManager etc.) and this can handle the tasks
of PIN input. It only needs to tell hcid/bluetoothd that it exists and
where to call it.

If no PIN helper has been registered then the default action will be to
reject every PIN request. This is a clean approach and we can remove a
lot of code from hcid that tries to handle PIN input nicely. And if they
wanna have a fixed PIN then they need to write a PIN helper, but the
whole communication must go over D-Bus. And once version 1.0 of D-Bus is
out, I will make it mandatory for bluez-utils.

> > > > my current idea is to have a default handler that the applications have
> > > > to register over org.bluez.Manager and that they can have multiple other
> > > > PIN handlers registered via the org.bluez.Device interface for specific
> > > > devices. While the default handler is permanent, all other PIN handlers
> > > > may expire and get removed automatically.
> > >
> > > I think you'll still need a way to unregister the default handler, when
> > > e.g. a user logs out from his session (so the next user that logs in can
> > > register his own default handler).
> 
> Remember that we can register fallback path(hierarchical path), where
> the root level can handle messages not handled by the child paths.
> Therefore, the default PIN Agent can be the base and the user defined
> can child paths.

I don't like this. The default action if no handler is registered must
be to reject the PIN request. Lets keep hcid/bluetoothd totally stupid.

Regards

Marcel




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  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-21 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-20 20:44 [Bluez-devel] Implementing the PIN helper support Marcel Holtmann
2006-02-20 21:14 ` Johan Hedberg
2006-02-20 21:31   ` Marcel Holtmann
2006-02-21  9:31     ` Johan Hedberg
2006-02-21 11:35       ` Marcel Holtmann
2006-02-21 12:21         ` Johan Hedberg
2006-02-21 12:56           ` Marcel Holtmann
2006-02-21 12:40         ` Claudio Takahasi
2006-02-21 13:02           ` Marcel Holtmann [this message]
2006-02-21 13:02           ` Johan Hedberg
2006-02-21 13:10             ` Marcel Holtmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-20 20:48 Christopher E Piggott
2006-02-20 20:52 ` Marcel Holtmann

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