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From: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
	linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [rfc]btusb with SCO support
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:19:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1219169986.7591.169.camel@violet.holtmann.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0808191142160.2669-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

Hi Alan,

> > > And presumably, if the number of SCO connections increases from one to 
> > > two then you need to switch to yet another altsetting -- while keeping 
> > > the existing connection intact, yes?
> > 
> > The connection will be kept alive. That is not the problem. We have to
> > cancel all URBs, select the new setting and then re-submit them.
> 
> Along with any URBs that were generated while the new altsetting was 
> being installed, right?
> 
> If you're already keeping track of old URBs that were cancelled, why is 
> it hard to keep track of new URBs as well?
> 
> > As mentioned above, there is nothing much we can do. Once we get the
> > connection established event, we have to submit URBs. The event comes in
> > via an interrupt URB. In theory we could defer the processing of the HCI
> > events, but that would have bad impact on all other parts of Bluetooth
> > and doing this only for audio makes no sense.
> 
> How about deferring only the submission of isoc URBs while doing all 
> the others immediately?

the bulk, control and interrupt URBs are on a different interface and so
they are not affected.

> > > Is it possible to change the subsystem design so that, for example, in
> > > addition to getting a notify() callback when the connection settings
> > > change, you also call a ready() function in the subsystem core to tell
> > > it when the new settings are ready for use?
> > 
> > I was thinking about that. However it is still the same problem. We do
> > have to submit URBs as soon as the connection is up. For the bulk URBs
> > (for ACL) it is no problem. The only issue is with isoc URB (for SCO),
> > because we have to pick an alternate setting first.
> 
> Well, you _can't_ submit isoc URBs before changing the altsetting; it
> just won't work.  So you can't start submitting them as soon as the
> connection is up -- the hardware doesn't allow it.  One way or another
> they have to be deferred.  The only question is how the deferrals 
> should be implemented.

Our problem is only that we are using a workqueue and can't make any
assumption when we get scheduled. This is obviously not perfect, but it
seems there is nothing much that can be done.

I think the specification is simply bad and we have to live with it.

> > > If not, and you are forced to rely on queuing URBs for later 
> > > submission, then I think it might be more appropriate to do this 
> > > queuing in the Bluetooth driver code rather than in usbcore.  You could 
> > > have an entire anchor devoted to deferred URBs.
> > 
> > What happens if we submit the isoc URBs right away and the call
> > usb_set_interface at some later time. Will these be canceled or what
> > happens to them when switching the endpoint.
> 
> When you call usb_set_interface(), all pending URBs for that interface 
> will be cancelled and will complete with a status of -ESHUTDOWN.
> 
> (Hmm, looking at the code I see that the altsetting gets changed
> _before_ the old URBs are cancelled.  That probably is a bug...)

Currently we cancel the URBs before calling usb_set_inferface.

Regards

Marcel



  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-19 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-31 12:52 [rfc]btusb with SCO support Oliver Neukum
2008-07-31 14:03 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-07-31 15:21   ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-01 17:42     ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-02 23:47       ` Alan Stern
2008-08-01 10:32   ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-01 17:43     ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-01 11:57   ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-01 17:45     ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-04  8:33       ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-04 16:05         ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-04 16:23           ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-04 16:33             ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-04 17:01               ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-04 17:25                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-04 18:32                   ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-04 20:24                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-05 11:15                       ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-08 21:14 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-12 20:53   ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-12 21:36     ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-13 15:16       ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-13 18:23         ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-18 10:13     ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-18 12:57       ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-18 13:38         ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-18 13:52           ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-18 14:10             ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-18 14:27               ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-18 14:36                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-18 14:38                   ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-18 15:12                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-18 16:03                       ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-18 17:07                         ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-18 21:26                           ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-19  4:05                             ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-19  7:03                               ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-19  7:19                                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-19  7:30                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2008-08-19  7:52                                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-19 14:49                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-08-19 15:18                                         ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-19 15:53                                           ` Alan Stern
2008-08-19 18:19                                             ` Marcel Holtmann [this message]
2008-08-19 18:57                                               ` Alan Stern
2008-08-20  6:39                                                 ` Dave Higton
2008-08-20 13:50                                                   ` Alan Stern

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