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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "Bluetooth: Always enable management interface"
From: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
To: Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>
Cc: Gustavo Padovan <gustavo@padovan.org>,
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	Johan Hedberg <johan.hedberg@intel.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:33:42 +0200
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Hi Keith,

> > A consequence is that you'll need to use newer version of bluez, at least 4.99.
> > Or call the bluetooth daemon (from a pre 4.99 version) with a parameter to
> > disable the new interface:
> 
> That's not OK -- you're breaking user space with this kernel change. I
> know I get bashed every time I suggest that we 'fix' the kernel and
> require new user space X bits...

I think we actually have a broken user space in this case. I do have a
hunch on what went wrong. It is not the kernel's fault here.

If I am anywhere right, then bluetoothd fails to bring up the device.
That is why you don't see anything with "hcitool dev", but the device
should be present. Check "hciconfig -a".

Check your bluetoothd startup line and add "-P mgmtops". That will
disable the broken plugin.

Regards

Marcel