From: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
To: "Douglas, William" <william.douglas@intel.com>
Cc: linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Correct the dbus service file's systemd unit name for bluez.
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 08:54:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1361778859.3902.4.camel@aeonflux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABhPDt-baxtSbCgBN2jRh_zGVhYFPP_78E==oqCJaVhQX7dOnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi William,
> >> >> Even though dbus-org.bluez.service is set as an alias for the
> >> >> bluetooth.service systemd unit file, systemd will not be able to load
> >> >> the bluetooth daemon without the daemon being enabled (and the
> >> >> dbus-org.bluez.service file linked to bluetooth.service). This patch
> >> >> allows the daemon to be loaded by other services on demand.
> >> >
> >> > as you have noticed we have this in bluetooth.service:
> >> >
> >> > [Install]
> >> > WantedBy=bluetooth.target
> >> > Alias=dbus-org.bluez.service
> >> >
> >> > Isn't this exactly what we want anyway. The service must be enabled
> >> > first before it will ever auto-started. Otherwise it just auto-starts
> >> > and the user can never get rid of it.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Oh I didn't realize that was the intent. Is that because if it is auto
> >> enabled there is no way for the service to be masked to avoid it from
> >> auto starting? I was hoping to have the daemon start once it was
> >> requested by default. Probably more of a distro choice though.
> >
> > I am actually curious on what is the best way here. My current thinking
> > is that the daemon should be started when hardware is present. Starting
> > it only because of a UI applet seems silly if there is no hardware
> > present, but I am not sure what's the appropriate default is here.
>
> That is an interesting point. I was looking at it like I do for
> connman, where it will start even if there isn't any network
> interfaces currently available and that is expected behavior to me.
> Bluez could be waiting on a usb bluetooth adapter to be added just
> like connman is waiting on a usb ethernet adapter (and it isn't
> obvious to my that this is taking up a much in the way of resources or
> adding a lot of wakeups but I don't know). Either way I expect an easy
> to turn on and off UI component making either default simple to
> correct. Right now, the connman UI I am using just presents a
> bluetooth option for enable/disable but it doesn't work as is without
> the service being able to autostart without being enabled manually (or
> by the distro default).
in general the Bluetooth option should only be present if you have
bluetoothd running and at least one controller attached.
So my thinking is that attaching a controller will start bluetoothd and
then connmand will pick up up and present Bluetooth as technology. So
that should all work.
ConnMan actually detects at runtime the start/restart of bluetoothd.
Regards
Marcel
prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-25 7:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-13 18:57 [PATCH] Correct the dbus service file's systemd unit name for bluez William Douglas
2013-02-23 10:48 ` Marcel Holtmann
2013-02-23 18:06 ` Douglas, William
2013-02-23 21:34 ` Marcel Holtmann
2013-02-24 20:22 ` Douglas, William
2013-02-25 7:54 ` Marcel Holtmann [this message]
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