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From: Martin Stolle <mstoll@sus.mcgill.ca>
To: BlueZ users <bluez-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bluez-users] help with Logitech Travel Mouse
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:05:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070926140507.GA5913@sus.mcgill.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070926113035.GC8781@suse.de>

On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 01:30:35PM +0200, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 08:34:41AM -0400, Martin Stolle wrote:
>  
> > The other problem is - what about people who don't use gnome or kde?  I
> > always thought Linux was about choice.  Clearly, if I want to use
> > bluetooth, I am forced to use one of these desktop systems with their
> > desktops, wms etc..., which is quite restrictive.  That is quite a step
> > back from the  "hidd --search"  way of doing things!
> > 
> > (Now, I am not saying that hidd --search should be the only way -
> > definitely not.  Gnome and KDE integratino are really important.  But
> > please not at the expense of simple command-line tools!)
> 
> Just go ahead and write them. Take those python scripts as a base and write
> some nice ncurses-based inputwizard. Or maybe XLib-based or whatever. Lots
> of people are complaining that "there is no way to do it on the command line"
> but the only people providing code are the desktop people.

Unfortunately, I am not a "desktop" person or "command-line" person.  I
am a user.  A significant amount of people earn their living writing
Gnome/KDE tools.  Thats, IMHO, why they provide code faster.  I don't
think I have the time and resources to promise that I will write and
maintain  tools that the bluez-team decided were no longer necessary. 

It's a shame.  I guess it's bound to happen - the more successful Linux
gets, the more it's gonna be like Windows.  Less choice, more
clicky-clicky!  I still don't quite understand the decision to drop
support for command-line tools, but I am not entitled to judge the
bluez-developers.  I can only express my frustration.

Martin


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-26 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-24 19:13 [Bluez-users] help with Logitech Travel Mouse Jared Greenwald
2007-09-24 19:22 ` Martin Stolle
2007-09-24 19:33   ` Jared Greenwald
2007-09-24 22:14     ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-09-24 22:21       ` Martin Stolle
2007-09-24 23:12         ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-09-24 23:21           ` Martin Stolle
2007-09-25 11:50             ` Jared Greenwald
2007-09-25 12:24               ` Claudio Takahasi
2007-09-25 12:34                 ` Martin Stolle
2007-09-26 11:30                   ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-09-26 14:05                     ` Martin Stolle [this message]
2007-09-26 22:06                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-09-26 22:18                         ` Martin Stolle
2007-09-27  7:39                           ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-09-27 13:42                             ` Martin Stolle
2007-09-27 23:08                               ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-09-25 12:41                 ` Jared Greenwald

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