* Problem with 'inquiry_cache' in sysfs
@ 2010-02-04 22:05 Frank Maas
2010-02-05 19:50 ` Marcel Holtmann
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From: Frank Maas @ 2010-02-04 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-bluetooth
Dear developers!
I have just connected to your mailing list as this is your prefered way
of contact. So excuse me for barging in a bit... And excuse me if the
following is too much text...
I am currently developing a system that relies heavily on the Linux
bluetooth stack. That system uses the sysfs interface to the kernel
module and more specifically the entry 'inquiry_cache' of the device
"directory".
While using this approach I experienced strange errors, varying from a
dead system, a system that went crazy, a system that spewed kernel
errors and the worse effect was a straight kernel panic. After blaming
everyone else (including myself) I found that I could reproduce the
error quite simple by just 'cat'-ing the above named inquiry_cache.
[If you like to try yourself, then go to an area where you have a lot of ]
[of BT devices, wait for a while and do 'cat /sys/.../inquiry_cache'. ]
[Or, to make it more certain that your system will crash: create a ]
[script that continuously does that command. ]
So I took a dive in the code and I think I found the problem. The sysfs
"documentation" says
'Attributes should be ASCII text files, preferably with only
one value per file. It is noted that it may not be efficient to
contain only one value per file, so it is socially acceptable
to express an array of values of the same type.
... expressing multiple lines of data ... is heavily frowned
upon.'
a little bit further it states
'To read [...] attributes, [a] show() [...] method must be
specified [...] sysfs allocates a buffer of size (PAGE_SIZE) and
passes it to the method. '
The Bluetooth stack defines function show_inquiry_cache() to serve the
above named file. For every entry in the cache a line is sprint'ed to
the buffer. While doing so there is no check if it still fits the
buffer. With a common value of 4096 for PAGE_SIZE it takes a bit more
than 50 entries to create a bufferoverflow. Since this is in kernelspace
bad things can and will happen...
I purposely quoted the documentation above since I have no simple
solution. I fear that one can argue if 'inquiry_cache' should be
available. It does not show a simple attribute(-list) but the contents
of a cache that can be rather large. However I do see a benefit for
having this cache available (I *am* using it, now am I).
Simply stop when the buffer is full is not an option since then one will
not see the complete cache (and so one can miss newly detected devices).
Showing only the most recent is a bit better, but one is still not
seeing everything.
So there you have it. I had a quick scan through your mail archive and
did not find this issue. I might have missearched or perhaps this topic
has already been tackled elsewhere. If so then please redirect me and
accept my appologies.
Happy to hear from you,
Frank
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* Re: Problem with 'inquiry_cache' in sysfs
2010-02-04 22:05 Problem with 'inquiry_cache' in sysfs Frank Maas
@ 2010-02-05 19:50 ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-02-07 13:30 ` Frank Maas
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From: Marcel Holtmann @ 2010-02-05 19:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Frank Maas; +Cc: linux-bluetooth
Hi Frank,
> I have just connected to your mailing list as this is your prefered way
> of contact. So excuse me for barging in a bit... And excuse me if the
> following is too much text...
>
> I am currently developing a system that relies heavily on the Linux
> bluetooth stack. That system uses the sysfs interface to the kernel
> module and more specifically the entry 'inquiry_cache' of the device
> "directory".
that file should have been moved to debugfs, but we haven't done that
yet. It really doesn't belong in sysfs at all. And should not be treated
as an API.
Regards
Marcel
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* Re: Problem with 'inquiry_cache' in sysfs
2010-02-05 19:50 ` Marcel Holtmann
@ 2010-02-07 13:30 ` Frank Maas
2010-02-08 7:48 ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Frank Maas @ 2010-02-07 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-bluetooth
Hello Marcel,
> > I am currently developing a system that relies heavily on the Linux
> > bluetooth stack. That system uses the sysfs interface to the kernel
> > module and more specifically the entry 'inquiry_cache' of the device
> > "directory".
>
> that file should have been moved to debugfs, but we haven't done that
> yet. It really doesn't belong in sysfs at all. And should not be treated
> as an API.
If I can be blunt: please remove it asap. It is very simple to make a
system crash for a simple user while this is part of the distribution.
And perhaps even worse options exists.
I'd like to point out that the functionality it offers is of use. As far
as I have seen the 'hcitool' offers an inquiry functionality, but that
starts an inquiry itself. The 'benefit' of the current inquire_cache
file is that one can use it without having to wait for an inquiry to
finish and while knowing that the cache is pretty recent. Perhaps
hcitool could be extended with an option for 'inq' that suppresses the
inquiry itself?
Kind regards,
Frank
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* Re: Problem with 'inquiry_cache' in sysfs
2010-02-07 13:30 ` Frank Maas
@ 2010-02-08 7:48 ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
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From: Luiz Augusto von Dentz @ 2010-02-08 7:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Frank Maas; +Cc: linux-bluetooth
Hi,
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Frank Maas <frank.maas@cheiron-it.nl> wrote:
> Hello Marcel,
>
>> > I am currently developing a system that relies heavily on the Linux
>> > bluetooth stack. That system uses the sysfs interface to the kernel
>> > module and more specifically the entry 'inquiry_cache' of the device
>> > "directory".
>>
>> that file should have been moved to debugfs, but we haven't done that
>> yet. It really doesn't belong in sysfs at all. And should not be treated
>> as an API.
>
> If I can be blunt: please remove it asap. It is very simple to make a
> system crash for a simple user while this is part of the distribution.
> And perhaps even worse options exists.
>
> I'd like to point out that the functionality it offers is of use. As far
> as I have seen the 'hcitool' offers an inquiry functionality, but that
> starts an inquiry itself. The 'benefit' of the current inquire_cache
> file is that one can use it without having to wait for an inquiry to
> finish and while knowing that the cache is pretty recent. Perhaps
> hcitool could be extended with an option for 'inq' that suppresses the
> inquiry itself?
Well if you use bluetoothd there is no such problem, it won't block
while inquiring/discovering and provide you dbus signals with the
important part of the inquire results.
Regards,
--
Luiz Augusto von Dentz
Computer Engineer
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