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From: "José Antonio Santos Cadenas" <jcaden@libresoft.es>
To: "Elvis Pfützenreuter" <epx@signove.com>
Cc: linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org, claudio.takahasi@openbossa.org,
	scarot <scarot@libresoft.es>,
	"Vinicius Costa Gomes" <vinicius.gomes@openbossa.org>,
	raul.herbster@signove.com,
	"Pedro de las Heras Quirós" <pheras@gsyc.es>
Subject: Re: More about proposed Health Device Profile API
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:05:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201004301305.45404.jcaden@libresoft.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201004301259.45561.jcaden@libresoft.es>

Sorry, Santiago's address was wrong.

Please answer to this mail.

El Friday 30 April 2010 12:59:45 José Antonio Santos Cadenas escribió:
> Hi all,
> 
> El Friday 30 April 2010 04:28:45 Elvis Pfützenreuter escribió:
> > A very simple session graph that illustrates the proposed API can be seen
> >  at http://epx.com.br/health_bluez.png.
> >
> > This API proposal was discussed jointly with Claudio Takahashi, Vinicius
> >  Gomes, Raul Herbster and others, and it is based on previous work on
> > MCAP API specification by Jose Cadenas and Santiago Nemesio, which have
> > been CCed.
> 
> That sounds great. We are happy that our ideas are good for you. We spent a
> lot of time on its desing. If you wish, we can have a meeting early next
>  week via IRC or any other way in order to disscuss this api. We have
>  already begun working in HDP so it will be very interesting to discuss
>  this API with you. We have a quite mature implementation of MCAP. As you
>  know, at the current moment we are having an internal reorganiation so we
>  have publish an alternative git with the last mcap code (still working on
>  it). Please, feel free to download and test it. All comments are wellcome.
> 
> git://193.147.51.48/git/mcap_devel.git
> 
> If you are interesting in the meeting please consider that in Madrid monday
>  is holiday, so the first day that we can talk to you is Tuesday 4th.
> 
> > The main guidelines of our current proposal are:
> >
> > a) MCAP is just a protocol, which does not specify SDP records for its
> > own needs. The HDP profile specifies the necessary SDP record, so we
> > expose an API for HDP, not for MCAP.
> >
> > b) Avoid exposing MCAP protocol details to the API client, except where
> >  unavoidable. Several MCAP parameters like PSM control channel may be
> > left undefined by the client, and the implementation would fill them with
> > reasonable values.
> >
> > c) MCAP control connection (MCL) is completely taken care of. The
> >  application only deals with MCAP data channels (MDLs), if any.
> >
> > d) The application should not need to handle SDP records, which are quite
> >  complicated in the HDP case. When it registers a HDP role, enough
> >  information is passed so a SDP record may be published automatically.
> >
> > When a remote HDP device is present, its SDP record would be interpreted
> >  automatically, so the application can discover easily the MDEP IDs and
> >  data types offered by remote device.
> >
> > e) The API allows for active connection, but still the application must
> >  register the HDP role beforehand. This ensures that a proper SDP record
> >  will have been published. (HDP sinks, the most common role a
> > BlueZ-running device will play, require the SDP record).
> >
> > f) HDP would be implemented inside bluetoothd as a plugin.
> >
> > g) HDP itself does not specify the data channels' protocol (it is
> > normally the IEEE 11073-20601, but there may be others in the future).
> > The API client would receive L2CAP sockets for each data channel, and
> >  select()/recv()/send() them directly.
> >
> > h) The application would be responsible by keeping the relationship
> > between MDL IDs and IEEE sessions, if it wants to enjoy the reconnection
> > feature. Also, it needs to be prepared to have a MDL socket closed,
> > receive another one and continue the session over it.
> >
> > If the application does not want to deal with reconnection, it may ask
> > for MDL deletion upon socket closure, or just take the new socket as a
> > brand new MDL.
> >
> > The HDP plugin would keep the necessary state information (local and
> > remote MDEP IDs) to allow easy (and transparent) reconnection.
> 
> This is more or less what we think. We believe that is better to talk it by
> IRC. By now he have a sequence diagram with the interaction of HDP with the
> clients (agents or managers).
> 
> http://193.147.51.48/hdp_sequence.png
> 
> > Cadenas and Nemesio have already sent patches with an initial MCAP
> >  implementation, some time ago. We hope to build on their initial effort
> >  and collaborate with them in order to have HDP implemented as soon as
> >  possible and offering a very comfortable API for the clients.
> 
> The patches are now obsolete, because we made a lot of changes on it. We
> haven't sent it yet because we are still waiting for comments about the
> architecture proposed in last patches. It will be better to discard those
> patches. We can also comment/explain the MCAP arquitecture if we have a
> meeting. We are planning to send new patches with all the changes next
>  week.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Jose and Santiago
> 
> PS: Also CCing Pedro de-las-Heras who is also working with us.
> 
> > --
> > Elvis
> 

      reply	other threads:[~2010-04-30 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-30  2:28 More about proposed Health Device Profile API Elvis Pfützenreuter
2010-04-30 10:59 ` José Antonio Santos Cadenas
2010-04-30 11:05   ` José Antonio Santos Cadenas [this message]

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