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From: Alexander Aring <alex.aring@gmail.com>
To: Michael Hennerich <michael.hennerich@analog.com>
Cc: Stefan Schmidt <stefan@osg.samsung.com>,
	marcel@holtmann.org, linux-wpan@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org, chrisfriedt@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drivers/net/ieee802154/adf7242: Driver for ADF7242 MAC IEEE802154
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 16:53:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151208155332.GA766@omega> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56668FCF.3070206@analog.com>

Hi,

On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 09:07:43AM +0100, Michael Hennerich wrote:
> On 12/07/2015 03:12 PM, Alexander Aring wrote:
> >On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 02:34:29PM +0100, Michael Hennerich wrote:
> >...
> >>>Stefan, maybe you testing with the ATUSB firmware which going _not_
> >>>into RX_AACK_ON. This was one of my lastest changes according to the
> >>>ATUSB firmware. Please check that, otherwise the atusb doesn't send
> >>>ack frames if ackrequest bit is set after receiving.
> >>
> >>I was wondering where can I buy the ATUSB?
> >>On the pulster page I can't find it.
> >>
> >
> >They are all out of stock, everywhere. I cc Werner maybe he will bring
> >back the atusb again. He do his stuff all open source and a possible
> >solution would be a Kickstarter project.
> >
> >Another option would be:
> >
> >  - Produce your own atusb
> >  - I know that "Christopher Friedt" produced some, maybe he will give/sell
> >    some. :-) I cc'ed him here.
> >  - use the experimental firmware [1] on RZUSBStick [0] support. Basics
> >    functionality only and not stable such atusb. I ported the firmware
> >    to this stick, it can be used by atusb driver. The transceiver is a
> >    different -> at86rf230... and this transceiver we also doesn't
> >    support by the at86rf230 because it's too different and a huge
> >    errata.
> 
> Would be nice to have a USB MAC8021511.
> Guess I need to wait for the next lot being produced.
> 
> 

ok. The RZUSBSTICK is still available but very poor state.

> >
> >>In general why is the framework not requesting ACKs on all non broadcast
> >>DATA frames?
> >>
> >>There is an option if turned on - it'll also request ACks on broadcasts...
> >
> >I suppose you use the af802154 socket family. I didn't touched the code
> >and this socket family is full of bugs. We need a replacement for that.
> >
> >The socket code which I was working is AF_PACKET.
> >
> >In case of AF_PACKET:
> >
> >  dgram sockets: extended address and intra_pan communciaton only. The
> >                 AF_PACKET UAPI doesn't offer more address information.
> >		We do a mapping to this currently, other option would be
> >		to disable DGRAM on AF_PACKET. It's not possible to send
> >		broadcast frames with that.
> >		If you need that, something similar like af802154 should
> >		be available, but it's currently broken.
> >
> >  raw sockets:   You can build the mac frame inside userspace with
> >                 complete control fc and address settings. We don't check
> >		this frame if it's valid. This is not a bug.
> >
> >
> >and 6LoWPAN:
> >
> >6LoWPAN doesn't do that, the check should be at [2]. If it's currently
> >broken at your side?
> 
> Maybe - I still use the lowpan-tools.
> And it locks like ACKs must be enabled via NL802154_CMD_SET_ACKREQ_DEFAULT,
> which lowpan-tools doesn't do.
> Wondering why it's not by default enabled...
> So I patched my kernel, probably in the wrong place.
> 

The lowpan-tools are deprecated. The official website is back (from what
I recovered), you can get wpan-tools at [0].

The ackreq_default is false by default (which indicates no ARET
handling/no ackrequest bit is set) because this requires that the other
side can deal with ack handling. Otherwise the node will get the frame 3
times.

The conclusion is to set the ack handling default to false, if you know
your network can do ack handling then you can turn it on with the
wpan-tools.

Do you think we should enable it by default and if there are non IEEE
802.15.4 valid nodes around which doesn't support ACK handling we should
simple ignore that?

- Alex

[0] http://wpan.cakelab.org/releases/

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-08 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-04  9:09 [PATCH] drivers/net/ieee802154/adf7242: Driver for ADF7242 MAC IEEE802154 michael.hennerich
2015-12-04 12:07 ` Stefan Schmidt
2015-12-07 12:02   ` Stefan Schmidt
2015-12-07 12:18     ` Michael Hennerich
2015-12-07 13:25       ` Alexander Aring
2015-12-07 13:34         ` Michael Hennerich
2015-12-07 14:12           ` Alexander Aring
2015-12-08  8:07             ` Michael Hennerich
2015-12-08 15:53               ` Alexander Aring [this message]
2015-12-08 16:02                 ` Michael Hennerich
2015-12-09 10:31                   ` Alexander Aring
2015-12-10  0:04                     ` Stefan Schmidt
2015-12-07 15:08         ` Stefan Schmidt
2015-12-07 14:54       ` Stefan Schmidt
2015-12-07 12:47   ` Michael Hennerich
2015-12-07 13:53     ` Alexander Aring
2015-12-08  8:43       ` Michael Hennerich
2015-12-08 17:11         ` Alexander Aring
2015-12-09  9:53           ` Michael Hennerich
2015-12-09 14:55             ` Alexander Aring
2015-12-09 16:09               ` Michael Hennerich
2015-12-07 15:03     ` Stefan Schmidt
2015-12-04 12:42 ` Christopher Friedt
2015-12-04 13:34 ` kbuild test robot
2015-12-04 13:41 ` kbuild test robot

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