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From: Denis Kenzior <denkenz@gmail.com>
To: Luiz Augusto von Dentz <luiz.dentz@gmail.com>
Cc: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	"Stotland, Inga" <inga.stotland@intel.com>,
	"linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH BlueZ] shared/io-ell: Add support for ELL based IO handling
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 11:29:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22877125-36df-f879-1a0c-aff57ce380c9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABBYNZ+TVBd83x_28BzQM9-qwymtXU19gc5CKYW=o12Ljw1Szg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Luiz,

>> I would rather not do that actually.  It is already weird that you guys have
>> io_send but not io_recv.  And since io is not only used with streams /
>> files, but with datagram sockets as well, we would have to add a bunch of
>> methods for symmetry.  Not to mention that somehow 'send' uses iovecs and
>> the convention inside ell for this is to suffix the method with a 'v'.
> 
> Ive thought of adding io_recv, it just that it was not necessary by
> anyone currently, anyway I guess having _v alternative makes ell play
> nice if the application is using iovec, or you are saying that with
> ell the application would have to use the fd directly and handle
> errors?

Right, that's the intent of the ell api.  We only handle the mainloop 
integration with io.  The actual send/recv/write/read/etc should be 
handled outside l_io to keep the l_io API minimal.  There are too many 
variations between socket types, streams, etc.  Most of our projects 
bypassed the weird GLib I/O functions (with its buffering semantics, 
etc) and just invoked the system calls directly anyway.

>> By the way, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there is zero need for
>> TEMP_FAILURE_RETRY inside BlueZ since it uses signalfd and non-blocking IO
>> anyway.  The only reason ell uses this macro is because we can't assume how
>> signals are used in the enclosing application.
> 
> Usually, BlueZ tools would use signalfd, including the daemon, we
> could perhaps remove the handling of EINTR if we could detect if
> signalfd is in fact being used but I don't know if that is possible,
> so better be save than sorry.

So I personally wouldn't introduce quasi-ell API that is not mirrored 
inside ell proper.  That will just make your job harder in the future. 
And if the caller of io_send just handles the writev invocation you can 
know exactly if TEMP_FAILURE_RETRY is needed or not.

Ideally this file should not exist.  You might get away with just 
(struct l_io *) io or vice-versa.

Regards,
-Denis

      reply	other threads:[~2018-05-17 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-14 23:56 [PATCH BlueZ] shared/io-ell: Add support for ELL based IO handling Inga Stotland
2018-05-16 12:47 ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2018-05-16 13:35 ` Marcel Holtmann
2018-05-16 14:39   ` Denis Kenzior
2018-05-17  8:01     ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2018-05-17 15:01       ` Denis Kenzior
2018-05-17 16:03         ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2018-05-17 16:29           ` Denis Kenzior [this message]

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