From: Nick Pelly <npelly@google.com>
To: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
Cc: linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Allow Bluez to select flushable or non-flushable ACL packets with L2CAP_LM_RELIABLE
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:16:51 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <35c90d960912181616r691fcecau1e1ca8322b2fc4f5@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1261180228.4041.111.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Hi Marcel,
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org> wrot=
e:
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> > > > >> >> >> Right now Bluez always requests flushable ACL packets (but=
does not
> > > > >> >> >> set a flush timeout, so effectively they are non-flushable=
):
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> However it is desirable to use an ACL flush timeout on A2D=
P packets so
> > > > >> >> >> that if the ACL packets block for some reason then the LM =
can flush
> > > > >> >> >> them to make room for newer packets.
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> Is it reasonable for Bluez to use the 0x00 ACL packet boun=
dary flag by
> > > > >> >> >> default (non-flushable packet), and let userspace request =
flushable
> > > > >> >> >> packets on A2DP L2CAP sockets with the socket option
> > > > >> >> >> L2CAP_LM_RELIABLE.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > the reliable option has a different meaning. It comes back =
from the old
> > > > >> >> > Bluetooth 1.1 qualification days where we had to tests on L=
2CAP that had
> > > > >> >> > to confirm that we can detect malformed packets and report =
them. These
> > > > >> >> > days it is just fine to drop them.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Got it, how about introducing
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> #define L2CAP_LM_FLUSHABLE 0x0040
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > that l2cap_sock_setsockopt_old() sets this didn't give you a h=
int that
> > > > >> > we might wanna deprecate this socket options ;)
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I need to read up on the flushable stuff, but in the end it de=
serves its
> > > > >> > own socket option. Also an ioctl() to actually trigger Enhance=
d flush
> > > > >> > might be needed.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> struct l2cap_pinfo {
> > > > >> >> =A0 =A0...
> > > > >> >> =A0 =A0__u8 flushable;
> > > > >> >> }
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Sure. In the long run we need to turn this into a bitmask. We =
are just
> > > > >> > wasting memory here.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Attached is an updated patch, that checks the LMP features bitma=
sk
> > > > >> before using the new non-flushable packet type.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I am still using L2CAP_LM_FLUSHABLE socket option in
> > > > >> l2cap_sock_setsockopt_old(), which I don't think you are happy w=
ith.
> > > > >> So how about a new option:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> SOL_L2CAP, L2CAP_ACL_FLUSH
> > > > >> which has a default value of 0, and can be set to 1 to make the =
ACL
> > > > >> data sent by this L2CAP socket flushable.
> > > >
> > > > Was this proposal ok?
> > >
> > > Even SOL_L2CAP goes away. Use SOL_BLUETOOTH for this.
> > >
> > > > >> In a later commit we would then add
> > > > >> SOL_ACL, ACL_FLUSH_TIMEOUT
> > > > >> That is used to set an automatic flush timeout for the ACL link =
on a
> > > > >> L2CAP socket. Note that SOL_ACL is new.
> > > > >
> > > > > can I stop you right here (without even looking at the patch). We=
do
> > > > > have the generic SOL_BLUETOOTH that you should be using. So addin=
g
> > > > > SOL_ACL is not a viable option at all.
> > > >
> > > > This would be in a later patch, and SOL_BLUETOOTH, ACL_FLUSH_TIMEOU=
T
> > > > is fine too, or whatever you prefer.
> > >
> > > Why not just use BT_FLUSHABLE and have it always take a timeout optio=
n
> > > and then 0 means not flushable. And advantage of having it separated?
> >
> > I think keeping them separate makes it clear that the flush timeout is
> > global for a given ACL link, whereas the flushable/non-flushable
> > boolean is specific to a L2CAP channel. (Which is why I suggested
> > introducing a new level SOL_ACL for the ACL_FLUSH_TIMEOUT option -
> > since this option applies at the ACL level in the stack).
> >
> > A specific advantage of this is that flushable packets can be enabled
> > without over-writing a previous flush timeout that was set on a
> > different L2CAP socket on the same ACL link. I guess this can also be
> > achieved with getsockopt() but that is racy.
>
> I am talking here about Enhanced Flush support and that would happen on
> a per ACL handle basis. So it actually almost applies on a per L2CAP
> socket level. Only exception is if you establish two or more L2CAP
> connections to the same remote device and set them all to flushable.
> Then of course all of them will be flushed. So strictly speaking it
> might be an ACL link feature, but we don't wanna use it that way. And in
> practice you won't have multiple concurrent flushable L2CAP connections
> to one remote device anyway.
>
I agree that having 2=A0flush-able=A0L2CAP channels to the same device
would probably not be common. But who knows what new profiles the
Bluetooth SIG will come up with that might also benefit from
flush-able=A0ACL data. And when this happens, with your proposed API,
programmers will not be able to avoid a race condition between
getsockopt() then setsockopt() if they want to turn on flushing
without changing the ACL flush timeout.
But its not worth arguing over.=A0SOL_BLUETOOTH, BT_FLUSHABLE is fine
(or BT_FLUSH_TIMEOUT instead).
I won't be doing development for a few weeks over the holidays, so I
can not update this patch for a while.
Nick
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-19 0:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-09 3:50 RFC: Allow Bluez to select flushable or non-flushable ACL packets with L2CAP_LM_RELIABLE Nick Pelly
2009-12-09 5:06 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-12-09 5:26 ` Nick Pelly
2009-12-09 6:13 ` Nick Pelly
2009-12-10 22:03 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-12-16 21:59 ` Nick Pelly
2009-12-16 23:36 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-12-16 23:48 ` Nick Pelly
2009-12-18 23:05 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-12-18 23:23 ` Nick Pelly
2009-12-18 23:50 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-12-19 0:12 ` Nick Pelly
2009-12-19 0:26 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-12-19 1:50 ` Nick Pelly
2009-12-19 2:05 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-12-19 3:00 ` Nick Pelly
2009-12-19 3:27 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-12-19 3:00 ` Perelet, Oleg
2009-12-19 7:46 ` Johan Hedberg
2009-12-19 0:16 ` Nick Pelly [this message]
2010-03-09 20:07 ` Nick Pelly
2010-03-09 20:45 ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-06-16 11:40 ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2010-06-16 12:04 ` Suraj
2010-06-16 15:14 ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2010-06-16 15:45 ` Suraj
2010-06-16 16:26 ` Nick Pelly
2010-06-17 5:09 ` Suraj
2010-06-16 14:15 ` Nick Pelly
2010-12-09 10:37 ` Andrei Emeltchenko
2010-12-09 16:55 ` Nick Pelly
2010-12-10 4:25 ` Suraj Sumangala
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