From: NIV VAIZER <nivv@cs.bgu.ac.il>
To: bluez-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bluez-users] no audio what to do
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:49:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43CA1AAB.50702@cs.bgu.ac.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43C9B8BC.4080202@pagestation.com>
well, according to some posts here and my own expirience, dongles that
have the broadcomm chip , as yourself dont do voice.
they do, however do data.
One may look in to some snapshots from windows enviroment, and try to
sort this throu.
Otherwise get a CSR based dongle,
Niv
Jerry Geis wrote:
> Niv,
>
> here is the ouput...
>
> hci0: Type: USB
> BD Address: 00:03:C9:AF:21:95 ACL MTU: 1017:8 SCO MTU: 64:0
> UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN RX bytes:241394 acl:36 sco:4706
> events:55 errors:0
> TX bytes:1354 acl:51 sco:0 commands:27 errors:0
> Features: 0xff 0xff 0x8d 0xfe 0x9b 0xf9 0x00 0x80
> Packet type: DM1 DM3 DM5 DH1 DH3 DH5 HV1 HV2 HV3 Link policy:
> RSWITCH HOLD SNIFF PARK Link mode: SLAVE ACCEPT Name: 'BlueZ (0)'
> Class: 0x3e0100
> Service Classes: Networking, Rendering, Capturing
> Device Class: Computer, Uncategorized
> HCI Ver: 2.0 (0x3) HCI Rev: 0x2000 LMP Ver: 2.0 (0x3) LMP Subver:
> 0x4127
> Manufacturer: Broadcom Corporation (15)
>
>
>
>
>
> Niv wrote:
>
>> Pls run:
>>
>> # hciconfig -a
>>
>>
>> and tell us , what gives
>>
>>
>> Niv
>>
>>
>> Jerry Geis wrote:
>>
>>> All
>>>
>>> I have a centos 4.2, plantronics 510 and kensington 2.0 dongle.
>>> I am using chan_bluetooth on asterisk and everything starts to
>>> work, I hear the ring in the headset I just get no audio.
>>>
>>> Below is the hcidump -X -V
>>>
>>> Thanks for any suggestion.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> ---------------
>>> HCI sniffer - Bluetooth packet analyzer ver 1.28
>>> device: hci0 snap_len: 1028 filter: 0xffffffff
>>> < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 10
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 6 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 05 0d 0a 65 .....e
>>> < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 18
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 14 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 15 2b 43 49 45 56 3a 20 33 2c 31 65
>>> ...+CIEV: 3,1e
>>> < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 10
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 6 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 05 0d 0a 65 .....e
>>> < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 10
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 6 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 05 0d 0a 65 .....e
>>> < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 12
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 8 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 09 52 49 4e 47 65 ...RINGe
>>> < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 10
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 6 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 05 0d 0a 65 .....e
>>> > HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5
>>> handle 12 packets 1
>>> > HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5
>>> handle 12 packets 2
>>> > HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5
>>> handle 12 packets 2
>>> > ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 9
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0040 len 5 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 11 ff 01 08 a3 .....
>>> > HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5
>>> handle 12 packets 1
>>> < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 10
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 6 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 05 0d 0a 65 .....e
>>> < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 12
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 8 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 09 52 49 4e 47 65 ...RINGe
>>> < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 10
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 6 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 05 0d 0a 65 .....e
>>> > HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5
>>> handle 12 packets 3
>>> > ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 13
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0040 len 9 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 11 ff 09 05 41 54 41 0d a3 ....ATA..
>>> < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 10
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 6 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 05 0d 0a 65 .....e
>>> < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 18
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 14 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 15 2b 43 49 45 56 3a 20 32 2c 31 65
>>> ...+CIEV: 2,1e
>>> < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 10
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 6 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 05 0d 0a 65 .....e
>>> < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 10
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 6 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 05 0d 0a 65 .....e
>>> < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 18
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 14 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 15 2b 43 49 45 56 3a 20 33 2c 30 65
>>> ...+CIEV: 3,0e
>>> < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 10
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 6 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 05 0d 0a 65 .....e
>>> < HCI Command: Add SCO Connection (0x01|0x0007) plen 4
>>> handle 12 ptype 0x00e0
>>> Packet type: HV1 HV2 HV3 < ACL data: handle 12 flags 0x02 dlen 14
>>> L2CAP(d): cid 0x0042 len 10 [psm 0]
>>> 0000: 13 ef 0d 0d 0a 4f 4b 0d 0a 65
>>> .....OK..e
>>> > HCI Event: Command Status (0x0f) plen 4
>>> Add SCO Connection (0x01|0x0007) status 0x00 ncmd 1
>>> > HCI Event: Connect Complete (0x03) plen 11
>>> status 0x00 handle 1 bdaddr 00:03:89:53:FD:3A type SCO encrypt 0x01
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 43 06 de 04 23 05 24 06 e6 03 9b 03 eb 02 00 00
>>> C...#.$.........
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: ff ff ff ff 02 00 02 00 01 00 01 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 01 00 ff ff ff ff 00 00 ff ff 00 00 ff ff 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> ................
>>>
>>> break in output as was still 0's
>>>
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 5a fe dc ff 94 ff b2 fe 32 fe 51 fd 85 fc 3e fd
>>> Z.......2.Q...>.
>>> 0010: 55 fd 30 fc 0e f9 0b f2 c9 ef 41 f1 11 f0 c2 ee
>>> U.0.......A.....
>>> 0020: b9 ee fc ef cc f1 a9 f2 a0 f3 a5 f4 01 f7 51 fa
>>> ..............Q.
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: bb fc 6e fe bc fe 66 ff 6f 02 c8 04 2f 06 13 06
>>> ..n...f.o.../...
>>> 0010: a1 06 4f 0a 16 0d 01 0e 48 0e 04 0d 19 0d fc 0e
>>> ..O.....H.......
>>> 0020: 52 10 70 0f 75 0c 02 0b aa 0a 9a 0b 4e 0c 34 0b
>>> R.p.u.......N.4.
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 0a 0c 89 0d b4 0c bc 0b 01 0c 7a 0a f9 07 56 06
>>> ..........z...V.
>>> 0010: be 04 39 04 e6 03 62 03 a6 04 04 05 eb 04 2d 05
>>> ..9...b.......-.
>>> 0020: 99 05 25 05 e3 03 95 03 03 04 bc 02 51 02 3c 02
>>> ..%.........Q.<.
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: e2 00 a4 00 86 01 93 03 8b 05 ed 08 9e 0d 1a 0f
>>> ................
>>> 0010: bf 0e 68 11 c0 11 2c 0f 14 0e 1d 0d 16 0d ac 0c
>>> ..h...,.........
>>> 0020: 12 0c 83 09 62 05 1a 04 41 03 03 02 72 00 3b fe
>>> ....b...A...r.;.
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: f7 fb af f9 c5 f7 fd f6 9d f4 46 f3 0f f5 7e f5
>>> ..........F...~.
>>> 0010: 2a f5 de f3 70 f1 9c f1 d0 f3 2a f5 18 f5 b8 f5
>>> *...p.....*.....
>>> 0020: 63 f5 68 f4 b2 f5 08 f7 6c f6 47 f6 bf f6 28 f6
>>> c.h.....l.G...(.
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: ff f7 f0 f8 db f7 36 f9 c2 fa ec fb 08 fc b6 fc
>>> ......6.........
>>> 0010: 88 fd d7 fd 40 fd 1c fd 77 fc 81 fb 04 fb 7d fb
>>> ....@...w.....}.
>>> 0020: ac fc a1 fc c4 fd 86 fe ad fe 5d fe 56 fd bd f8
>>> ..........].V...
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: fe f2 eb f0 26 f0 6b ee 4c ee 6b ef 0b f1 2c f3
>>> ....&.k.L.k...,.
>>> 0010: 8e f3 09 f4 b1 f3 7d f5 f4 f9 47 fb 6e fc 12 fd
>>> ......}...G.n...
>>> 0020: 0c fe 8b 00 ea 02 2d 05 53 07 d0 09 49 0c 45 0d
>>> ......-.S...I.E.
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 4d 0e f5 0c 19 0b d2 0b dc 0c 29 0c 8b 0c 92 0d
>>> M.........).....
>>> 0010: 30 0c f4 0b 00 0e 09 0d 08 0b 11 0c 1f 0d cd 0c
>>> 0...............
>>> 0020: a3 0b 0c 09 64 07 3e 07 8a 06 03 07 95 07 f1 07
>>> ....d.>.........
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 5b 07 85 06 49 05 29 03 af 03 6e 04 90 03 ba 02
>>> [...I.)...n.....
>>> 0010: 10 02 7a 02 33 04 8a 04 63 03 9d 02 84 00 3f 01
>>> ..z.3...c.....?.
>>> 0020: 57 03 18 04 52 06 1b 0a f3 0c f7 0e 51 10 44 11
>>> W...R.......Q.D.
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 28 10 d6 0e ad 0e c8 0e d4 0d 71 0a d4 07 11 06
>>> (.........q.....
>>> 0010: c8 03 18 03 72 02 26 00 0f fe 64 fd e7 fb 2e fa
>>> ....r.&...d.....
>>> 0020: ee f8 93 f5 f3 f2 bd f3 73 f3 f9 f2 0b f3 29 f3
>>> ........s.....).
>>> > SCO data: handle 1 dlen 48
>>> 0000: 49 f3 42 f5 00 f7 fd f5 ad f5 ef f6 9e f5 4b f4
>>> I.B...........K.
>>>
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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-06 16:32 [Bluez-users] no audio what to do Jerry Geis
2006-01-14 0:19 ` Niv
2006-01-15 2:51 ` Jerry Geis
2006-01-15 9:49 ` NIV VAIZER [this message]
2006-01-15 13:56 ` Jerry Geis
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