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From: Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de>
To: Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net>,
	"linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Szymon Janc <szymon.janc@tieto.com>
Subject: Re: Why doesn't plugins/sixaxis.c set devices as Trusted?
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:34:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <559B64FA.2070200@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1436245912.26954.15.camel@hadess.net>

Am 07.07.2015 um 07:11 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
> On Tue, 2015-07-07 at 06:31 +0200, Alexander Holler wrote:
>> Am 06.07.2015 um 15:17 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> I don't understand the reason why plugins/sixaxis.c doesn't set the
>>> device as trusted when plugged in.
>>
>> It's because of security. If you trust a bluetooth device on Linux,
>> you're trusting it for all services. In case of the sixaxis it means
>> you're not only trusting it (the BT-MAC) as an input device, but also
>> as
>> a network device.
>>
>> Now if you trust any plugged in device which says it's a sixaxis, I
>> would tell my arduino to say it's an sixaxis with a MAC from one of
>> my
>> BT-dongles to get a magic device which gives me wireless remote
>> access
>> on every linux box with BT when I plug it in once.
>>
>> That means you want user interaction, besides just plugging in a
>> device.
>
> What should the pairing process look like then? Because the current
> workflow is absolutely dreadful.

Pairing is something different than trusting a bluetooth device.

No idea what's your problem. If you remove the necessary user 
interaction to trust a device, you remove the security. Just plugging in 
an (anonymous) usb-device isn't usable as trust.

If Sony decided that's ok for the PS3 (a game console), it's one thing.

But you don't want a wireless remote connected second keyboard or even a 
network device if some just plugged in an anonymous usb-device which 
might even look totally different than as what it presents itself to the 
system.

Alexander Holler

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-07  5:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-06 13:17 Why doesn't plugins/sixaxis.c set devices as Trusted? Bastien Nocera
2015-07-07  4:31 ` Alexander Holler
2015-07-07  5:11   ` Bastien Nocera
2015-07-07  5:34     ` Alexander Holler [this message]
2015-07-07  6:49       ` Alexander Holler
2015-07-07  5:35     ` Bastien Nocera
2015-07-07 14:16   ` Harald Schmitt
2015-07-09 20:26     ` Alexander Holler

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