From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:05:01 -0700 (PDT) From: walt shekrota To: BlueZ users In-Reply-To: <846060.92220.qm@web62302.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <623936.42786.qm@web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Bluez-users] bluez/alsa modules vs kernel Reply-To: BlueZ users List-Id: BlueZ users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0242504022==" Sender: bluez-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: bluez-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net --===============0242504022== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-997933362-1182215101=:42786" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --0-997933362-1182215101=:42786 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ok now I see where the plugz plugin is in the doc. You have to understand if anyone sat down and read your doc end to end they would go insane. Unfortunately I chose to ignore a little too much. This was actually my point that something like this should exist. So where is plugz in terms of adoption? Like I was saying I don't see it anywhere in particular.... gentoo, ubuntu. (other than CVS) See your prereq list is a little scarey these type dependency should be taken care of in the install process after it has reached some adoption level in the community. Is there any distro that is including it as an option that you know of? Thanks. -Walt walt shekrota wrote: yeah I see choose a new name I get the picture. Would be nice to include some rough dates there to be a history so we can get an idea of flow. so when was plugz started and what are the goals? Since plugz is not in the gentoo portage tree yet from what I can see I assume it to be VERY young. Also the powers that correlate these packages for release are very wary of security and design issues these days and seem looking for reasons to exclude. So on the new package hows the doc etc? Thanks -Walt Brad Midgley wrote: a lot of this is covered in http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/history.html On 6/16/07, walt shekrota wrote:Ok maybe this more appropriately describes my concern. I am using btsco. Why can't the code just use the alsa driver why must there be a headset component driver? ie I change the driver in skype to headset not alsa for my sound card. In my mind if that were the case it would always be a kernel component interfaced with that doesn't break in every release. Thanks for any info. -Walt Brad Midgley < bmidgley@gmail.com> wrote: walt Isn't there an alsa interface that can be used without patching? ie Do all applications that use alsa when it's in the kernel, patch? I'm not sure what you're asking. Have you tried out plugz are you only talking about btsco? Also which headset are you working with? There is a recommended kernel patch regardless of which approach you use for voice headsets. See plugz/patches for the sco-flowcontrol patch. Brad ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/_______________________________________________ Bluez-users mailing list Bluez-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluez-users --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. 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So where is plugz in terms of adoption? Like I was saying I don't see it anywhere in particular.... gentoo, ubuntu. (other than CVS)

See your prereq list is a little scarey these type dependency should be taken care of in the  install process after it has reached some adoption level in the community.

Is there any distro that is including it as an option that you know of?
Thanks.
-Walt

walt shekrota <penguinacity@yahoo.com> wrote:
yeah I see choose a new name I get the picture.

Would be nice to include some rough dates there to be a history so we can get an idea of flow.
so when was plugz started and what are the goals?
Since plugz is not in the gentoo portage tree yet from what I can see I assume it to be VERY young. Also the powers that correlate these packages for release are very wary of security and design issues these days and seem looking for reasons to exclude.

So on the new package hows the doc etc?

Thanks
-Walt

Brad Midgley <bmidgley@gmail.com> wrote:
a lot of this is covered in http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/history.html

On 6/16/07, walt shekrota <penguinacity@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ok maybe this more appropriately describes my concern. I am using btsco. Why can't the code just use the alsa driver why must there be a headset component driver? ie I change the driver in skype to headset not alsa for my sound card.
In my mind if that were the case it would always be a kernel component interfaced with that doesn't break in every release.

Thanks for any info.
-Walt

Brad Midgley < bmidgley@gmail.com> wrote:
walt


Isn't there an alsa interface that can be used without patching?
ie Do all applications that use alsa when it's in the kernel, patch?


I'm not sure what you're asking. Have you tried out plugz are you only talking about btsco? Also which headset are you working with?

There is a recommended kernel patch regardless of which approach you use for voice headsets. See plugz/patches for the sco-flowcontrol patch.

Brad
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