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From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
To: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com>, Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>,
	NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>,
	"Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>,
	"open list:BLUETOOTH DRIVERS" <linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-serial@vger.kernel.org" <linux-serial@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] UART slave device bus
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 14:14:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkda4BmgfuYo0Tj8Rvoq4qvfSz7HT03J0dNPJiL4z7PWx1g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160822164533.688a6aec@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 5:45 PM, One Thousand Gnomes
<gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:

> and if I look at the usermode crapfest on a lot of Android systems it
> looks similar but with the notion of things like being able to describe
>
> -       Use GPIO mode sleeping and assume first char is X to save power

It's really nasty hardware design, or a software hack to solve
a hardware problem: what should have been done is
of course create a UART with an asynchronous low-power mode
that can recieve a character and wake up the system at any time,
handing over the wakeup character(s) to the driver. That is
obviously the usecase they were designing for.

But yeah, I guess we have to contain hacks like that.

> -       Power up, wait n ms, write, read, wait n ms, power down (which
>         has to be driven at the ldisc/user level as only the ldisc
>         understands transactions, or via ioctls (right now Android user
>         space tends to do hardcoded writes to /sys.. gpio to drive power

This kind of abominational abuse of the GPIO sysfs ABI is
partly why I've obsoleted it. The right abstraction is the
fixed regulator with a GPIO line obviously, then some
sequencing along the lines of what you can find in
drivers/mmc/core/pwrseq*

Unfortunately that sysfs ABI crept in during a window of time
when GPIO was unmaintained and I am trying my best to
contain and improve the situation.

Yours,
Linus Walleij

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-24 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-18  1:14 [RFC PATCH 0/3] UART slave device bus Rob Herring
2016-08-18  1:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] uart bus: Introduce new bus for UART slave devices Rob Herring
2016-08-18  1:14 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] tty: serial_core: make tty_struct optional Rob Herring
2016-08-18 10:50   ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-18  1:14 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] tty: serial_core: add uart controller registration Rob Herring
2016-08-18 10:22 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] UART slave device bus Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-08-18 10:30   ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 10:53     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-08-18 13:53       ` Rob Herring
2016-08-18 13:15   ` Rob Herring
2016-08-18 15:04     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 18:33       ` Rob Herring
2016-08-19 11:03         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-25 16:40       ` Rob Herring
2016-08-26 13:12         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 10:39 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 10:47   ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-18 10:54     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 10:57       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-08-18 11:14         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 14:40         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 14:58           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-08-18 11:27     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 10:49   ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 10:55     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-08-18 11:01       ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 11:24         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-08-18 11:42           ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-18 11:51           ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 15:14             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 15:13           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 11:10       ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-18 11:18         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 11:49           ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 12:16             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 15:15             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 11:47         ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 13:01           ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-18 15:16           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 11:02     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 11:41       ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 12:07         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 11:02 ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-18 13:07 ` Linus Walleij
2016-08-18 17:31   ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 14:25 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 15:14   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 15:38     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 18:31       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 22:25   ` Rob Herring
2016-08-19 11:38     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-19 15:36       ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-18 20:29 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-18 23:08   ` Rob Herring
2016-08-19  5:21     ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-19  7:29       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-19  7:49         ` Oleksij Rempel
2016-08-19 17:50           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-19 20:19             ` Oleksij Rempel
2016-08-20 13:34             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-21  7:50               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-22 20:39                 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-22 21:23                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-22 21:43                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-22 22:42                     ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-22 22:52                       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 23:10                         ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-23  7:28                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-27 12:01                     ` Michal Suchanek
2016-08-19 11:06         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-19 17:42           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-20 13:22             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-21  7:50               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-21 17:09                 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-21 18:23                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-22  9:09                     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22  9:33                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-19 11:03       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-19 14:44         ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-22 12:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-22 13:38   ` Rob Herring
2016-08-22 15:24     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-22 15:28       ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-22 15:46         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-22 15:45       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 21:07         ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-22 21:35           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 22:03           ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-22 22:46             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 23:41               ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-24 12:14         ` Linus Walleij [this message]
2016-08-22 16:44       ` Rob Herring
2016-08-22 17:02         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 17:30           ` Rob Herring
2016-08-22 17:38             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 21:16               ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-22 21:32                 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 22:00                   ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-22 22:54                     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 23:57                       ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-23  0:15                         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-23  0:57                           ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-24 13:57                             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-24 14:29                               ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-23 11:42                           ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-22 23:02                     ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-22 20:00             ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-22 22:00               ` Rob Herring
2016-08-22 22:18                 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-23 21:04       ` Rob Herring

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