From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
To: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com>, Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>,
NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>,
"Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>,
"open list:BLUETOOTH DRIVERS" <linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-serial@vger.kernel.org" <linux-serial@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] UART slave device bus
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 14:14:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkda4BmgfuYo0Tj8Rvoq4qvfSz7HT03J0dNPJiL4z7PWx1g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160822164533.688a6aec@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 5:45 PM, One Thousand Gnomes
<gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> and if I look at the usermode crapfest on a lot of Android systems it
> looks similar but with the notion of things like being able to describe
>
> - Use GPIO mode sleeping and assume first char is X to save power
It's really nasty hardware design, or a software hack to solve
a hardware problem: what should have been done is
of course create a UART with an asynchronous low-power mode
that can recieve a character and wake up the system at any time,
handing over the wakeup character(s) to the driver. That is
obviously the usecase they were designing for.
But yeah, I guess we have to contain hacks like that.
> - Power up, wait n ms, write, read, wait n ms, power down (which
> has to be driven at the ldisc/user level as only the ldisc
> understands transactions, or via ioctls (right now Android user
> space tends to do hardcoded writes to /sys.. gpio to drive power
This kind of abominational abuse of the GPIO sysfs ABI is
partly why I've obsoleted it. The right abstraction is the
fixed regulator with a GPIO line obviously, then some
sequencing along the lines of what you can find in
drivers/mmc/core/pwrseq*
Unfortunately that sysfs ABI crept in during a window of time
when GPIO was unmaintained and I am trying my best to
contain and improve the situation.
Yours,
Linus Walleij
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-24 12:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-18 1:14 [RFC PATCH 0/3] UART slave device bus Rob Herring
2016-08-18 1:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] uart bus: Introduce new bus for UART slave devices Rob Herring
2016-08-18 1:14 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] tty: serial_core: make tty_struct optional Rob Herring
2016-08-18 10:50 ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-18 1:14 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] tty: serial_core: add uart controller registration Rob Herring
2016-08-18 10:22 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] UART slave device bus Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-08-18 10:30 ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 10:53 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-08-18 13:53 ` Rob Herring
2016-08-18 13:15 ` Rob Herring
2016-08-18 15:04 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 18:33 ` Rob Herring
2016-08-19 11:03 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-25 16:40 ` Rob Herring
2016-08-26 13:12 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 10:39 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 10:47 ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-18 10:54 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 10:57 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-08-18 11:14 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 14:40 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 14:58 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-08-18 11:27 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 10:49 ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 10:55 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-08-18 11:01 ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 11:24 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-08-18 11:42 ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-18 11:51 ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 15:14 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 15:13 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 11:10 ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-18 11:18 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 11:49 ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 12:16 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 15:15 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 11:47 ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 13:01 ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-18 15:16 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 11:02 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 11:41 ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 12:07 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 11:02 ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-18 13:07 ` Linus Walleij
2016-08-18 17:31 ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-18 14:25 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 15:14 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 15:38 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-18 18:31 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-18 22:25 ` Rob Herring
2016-08-19 11:38 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-19 15:36 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-18 20:29 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-18 23:08 ` Rob Herring
2016-08-19 5:21 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-19 7:29 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-19 7:49 ` Oleksij Rempel
2016-08-19 17:50 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-19 20:19 ` Oleksij Rempel
2016-08-20 13:34 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-21 7:50 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-22 20:39 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-22 21:23 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-22 21:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-22 22:42 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-22 22:52 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 23:10 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-23 7:28 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-27 12:01 ` Michal Suchanek
2016-08-19 11:06 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-19 17:42 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-20 13:22 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-21 7:50 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-21 17:09 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-21 18:23 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-08-22 9:09 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 9:33 ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-19 11:03 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-19 14:44 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-22 12:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-22 13:38 ` Rob Herring
2016-08-22 15:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-22 15:28 ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-22 15:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-22 15:45 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 21:07 ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-22 21:35 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 22:03 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-22 22:46 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 23:41 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-24 12:14 ` Linus Walleij [this message]
2016-08-22 16:44 ` Rob Herring
2016-08-22 17:02 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 17:30 ` Rob Herring
2016-08-22 17:38 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 21:16 ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-22 21:32 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 22:00 ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-22 22:54 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-22 23:57 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-23 0:15 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-23 0:57 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-24 13:57 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-24 14:29 ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-23 11:42 ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-08-22 23:02 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-22 20:00 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-22 22:00 ` Rob Herring
2016-08-22 22:18 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-08-23 21:04 ` Rob Herring
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