From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:55:27 +0100 From: Rick Jones To: Bastien Nocera , Dan Williams Subject: Re: So very close, but so frustrating... Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1254439169.22191.317.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4AC3EFD9.1020602@shic.co.uk> <7cd7fc040909301718r3e441c53x767084b0b01f4a7c@mail.gmail.com> <1254433173.9657.155.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1254439169.22191.317.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: BlueZ development , networkmanager-list@gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0565932402==" Sender: networkmanager-list-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: networkmanager-list-bounces@gnome.org List-ID: --===============0565932402== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="==========859D65B41421F3EA5F3C==========" Content-Disposition: inline --==========859D65B41421F3EA5F3C========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've just installed blueman, to replace bluez-gnome, and it does this perfectly. It's a much better UI-oriented manager for BT devices altogether, it shows my phone, I click on "attach serial service", and it exposes the BT modem in DBus. NM 0.7 sees it just like a USB modem and it connects first time. Magic! I'm too hardened to be often impressed first-time with a piece of software, but this was spot-on (does audio, obex, etc just as neatly). OK, it takes a couple of extra clicks to connect the phone, which I guess a built-in NM implementation could do automatically, but that's pretty minor. Rick --On Friday, October 02, 2009 00:19:29 +0100 Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 14:39 -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 20:18 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: > > > > At this time Network Manager does not support Bluetooth modems. I > > > think 0.8 supports phones if they use Bluetooth PAN but not Bluetooth > > > DUN. > > > > Correct; I may just get bored enough today triaging bugs to go implement > > DUN in 0.8. That opens up a huge number of cellphones, which will > > inevitably lead to even more bugs since there's much more phone > > variation than in the relatively small data card space. Oh well; it > > would help a lot of people out. > > 1. Add ability for MM to identify Bluetooth modems > 2. Add plugin in bluez to poke at the modem with MM if it doesn't know > the type of device, cache the result, the bluez plugin exports the > information through a service > 3. Add DUN gnome-bluetooth plugin to nm-applet which would poke the > bluez service > 4. Add native support in NM to do the connection through bluetoothd > > After 3., if the box is ticked, the device should appear like an > unconfigured WWAN modem to the user. The service configuration can then > be done through nm-applet. > > I can certainly take care of 2. and 3. if you do 1. and the left-overs > of 4 :) > > Cheers > > > --==========859D65B41421F3EA5F3C========== Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I've just installed blueman, to replace bluez-gnome, and it does this = perfectly.

It's a much better UI-oriented manager for BT devices altogether, it shows = my phone, I click on "attach serial service", and it exposes the = BT modem in DBus. NM 0.7 sees it just like a USB modem and it connects = first time. Magic!

I'm too hardened to be often impressed first-time with a piece of software, = but this was spot-on (does audio, obex, etc just as neatly). OK, it takes a = couple of extra clicks to connect the phone, which I guess a built-in NM = implementation could do automatically, but that's pretty minor.

Rick

--On Friday, October 02, 2009 00:19:29 +0100 Bastien Nocera = <hadess@hadess.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 14:39 -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 20:18 -0400, Darren Albers wrote:
> <snip>
> > > At this time Network Manager does not support Bluetooth = modems.   I
> > > think 0.8 supports phones if they use Bluetooth PAN but not = Bluetooth
> > > DUN.
> >
> > Correct; I may just get bored enough today triaging bugs to go = implement
> > DUN in 0.8.  That opens up a huge number of cellphones, = which will
> > inevitably lead to even more bugs since there's much more = phone
> > variation than in the relatively small data card = space.  Oh well; it
> > would help a lot of people out.
>
> 1. Add ability for MM to identify Bluetooth modems
> 2. Add plugin in bluez to poke at the modem with MM if it doesn't = know
> the type of device, cache the result, the bluez plugin exports the
> information through a service
> 3. Add DUN gnome-bluetooth plugin to nm-applet which would poke = the
> bluez service
> 4. Add native support in NM to do the connection through = bluetoothd
>
> After 3., if the box is ticked, the device should appear like an
> unconfigured WWAN modem to the user. The service configuration can = then
> be done through nm-applet.
>
> I can certainly take care of 2. and 3. if you do 1. and the = left-overs
> of 4 :)
>
> Cheers
>
>
>


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