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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Mikhail Gavrilov <mikhail.v.gavrilov@gmail.com>
Cc: dsterba@suse.cz, Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Subject: Re: BUG: MAX_LOCKDEP_CHAIN_HLOCKS too low!
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 13:30:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <017f7b9e-323c-f9aa-12fa-9c9a16dabd35@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y9K6m5USnON/19GT@boqun-archlinux>

On 1/26/23 12:38, Boqun Feng wrote:
> [Cc lock folks]
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 02:47:42PM +0500, Mikhail Gavrilov wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 10:21 PM David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 01:27:48AM +0500, Mikhail Gavrilov wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 9:47 PM David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 05:32:54PM +0500, Mikhail Gavrilov wrote:
>>>>>> Hi guys.
>>>>>> Always with intensive writing on a btrfs volume, the message "BUG:
>>>>>> MAX_LOCKDEP_CHAIN_HLOCKS too low!" appears in the kernel logs.
>>>>> Increase the config value of LOCKDEP_CHAINS_BITS, default is 16, 18
>>>>> tends to work.
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Today I was able to get the message "BUG: MAX_LOCKDEP_CHAIN_HLOCKS too
>>>> low!" again even with LOCKDEP_CHAINS_BITS=18 and kernel 6.2-rc5.
>>>>
>>>> ❯ cat /boot/config-`uname -r` | grep LOCKDEP_CHAINS_BITS
>>>> CONFIG_LOCKDEP_CHAINS_BITS=18
>>>>
>>>> [88685.088099] BUG: MAX_LOCKDEP_CHAIN_HLOCKS too low!
>>>> [88685.088124] turning off the locking correctness validator.
>>>> [88685.088133] Please attach the output of /proc/lock_stat to the bug report
>>>> [88685.088142] CPU: 14 PID: 1749746 Comm: mv Tainted: G        W    L
>>>>    -------  ---  6.2.0-0.rc5.20230123git2475bf0250de.38.fc38.x86_64 #1
>>>> [88685.088154] Hardware name: System manufacturer System Product
>>>> Name/ROG STRIX X570-I GAMING, BIOS 4408 10/28/2022
>>>>
>>>> What's next? Increase this value to 19?
>>> Yes, though increasing the value is a workaround so you may see the
>>> warning again.
>> Is there any sense in this WARNING if we would ignore it and every
>> time increase the threshold value?
> Lockdep uses static allocated array to track lock holdings chains to
> avoid dynmaic memory allocation in its own code. So if you see the
> warning it means your test has more combination of lock holdings than
> the array can record. In other words, you reach the resource limitation,
> and in that sense it makes sense to just ignore it and increase the
> value: you want to give lockdep enough resource to work, right?
>
>> May Be set 99 right away? Or remove such a check condition?
> That requires having 2^99 * 5 * sizeof(u16) memory for lock holding
> chains array..

Note that every increment of LOCKDEP_CHAINS_BITS double the storage 
space. With 99, that will likely exceed the total amount of memory you 
have in your system.

Boqun, where does the 5 figure come from. It is just a simple u16 array 
of size MAX_LOCKDEP_CHAIN_HLOCKS. The chain_hlocks array stores the lock 
chains that show up in the lockdep splats and in the /proc/lockdep* 
files. Each chain is variable size. As we add new lock into the chain, 
we have to repeatedly deallocate and reallocate a larger chain buffer. 
That will cause fragmentation in the chain_hlocks[]. So if we have a 
very long lock chain, the allocation may fail because the largest free 
block is smaller than the requested chain length. There may be enough 
free space in chain_hlocks, but it is just too fragmented to be useful.

Maybe we should figure out a better way to handle this fragmentation. In 
the mean time, the easiest way forward is just to increase the 
LOCKDEP_CHAINS_BITS by 1.

>
> However, a few other options we can try in lockdep are:
>
> *	warn but not turn off the lockdep: the lock holding chain is
> 	only a cache for what lock holding combination lockdep has ever
> 	see, we also record the dependency in the graph. Without the
> 	lock holding chain, lockdep can still work but just slower.
>
> *	allow dynmaic memory allocation in lockdep: I think this might
> 	be OK since we have lockdep_recursion to avoid lockdep code ->
> 	mm code -> lockdep code -> mm code ... deadlock. But maybe I'm
> 	missing something. And even we allow it, the use of memory
> 	doesn't change, you will still need that amout of memory to
> 	track lock holding chains.

It is not just the issue of calling the memory allocator. There is also 
the issue of copying data from old chain_hlocks to new one while the old 
one may be updated during the copying process unless we can freeze 
everything else.

Cheers,
Longman


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-26 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-26 12:32 BUG: MAX_LOCKDEP_CHAIN_HLOCKS too low! Mikhail Gavrilov
2022-07-26 16:42 ` David Sterba
2022-07-26 19:19   ` Chris Murphy
2022-07-26 19:21     ` Chris Murphy
2022-07-26 20:42       ` David Sterba
2022-08-03 19:28   ` Mikhail Gavrilov
2022-08-03 20:00     ` Chris Murphy
2022-08-04  7:35       ` Mikhail Gavrilov
2022-08-04 11:23         ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-01-24 20:27   ` Mikhail Gavrilov
2023-01-25 17:15     ` David Sterba
2023-01-26  9:47       ` Mikhail Gavrilov
2023-01-26 17:38         ` Boqun Feng
2023-01-26 18:30           ` Waiman Long [this message]
2023-01-26 18:59             ` Boqun Feng
2023-01-26 19:07               ` Waiman Long
2023-01-26 22:42           ` Mikhail Gavrilov
2023-01-26 22:51             ` Boqun Feng
2023-01-26 23:49             ` Boqun Feng
2023-01-27  0:20             ` Waiman Long
2023-01-27  3:37               ` Chris Murphy
2023-01-27  4:07                 ` Boqun Feng
2023-01-27  5:35                   ` Mikhail Gavrilov
2023-01-27 14:26                   ` Waiman Long
2023-01-27 15:33                     ` Chris Murphy
2025-03-09 22:51                       ` Mikhail Gavrilov
2025-03-10 11:23                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-10  9:08                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-10 13:01                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-10 11:21           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-10 16:37             ` Boqun Feng
2025-09-23  7:03               ` Mikhail Gavrilov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-03-02 10:27 Johannes Thumshirn
2021-03-04 13:52 ` David Sterba

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