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From: Oystein Viggen <oysteivi@tihlde.org>
To: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Rename+crash behaviour of btrfs - nearly ext3!
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:28:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0339xpl4pp.fsf@msgid.viggen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20100518131304.GX8635@think

* [Chris Mason]=20

> I'm more than open to discussion on this one, but I don't see how:
>
> rm -f foo2
> dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dfoo bs=3D1M count=3D1000
> mv foo foo2
>
> Should be expected to write 1GB of data.

IIRC, the answer you're looking for is "it did with ext3 in the default
data=3Dordered mode".  Combine that with the ext3 data=3Dordered fsync(=
)
escalation where (again IIRC) fsync() tended to force a full sync() of
the file system, and it's not that difficult to see why someone would
program with the expectation above.

Anyway, there's still a question of if a new file system should emulate
the quirks of the old file system (read: be bug compatible), or if you
can just expect to be popular enough that userspace adapts to the new
order and lets you do The Right Thing instead.

=D8ystein
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-18 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-17 18:04 Rename+crash behaviour of btrfs - nearly ext3! Jakob Unterwurzacher
2010-05-17 19:12 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-05-17 19:25 ` Josef Bacik
2010-05-17 20:09   ` Chris Mason
2010-05-17 20:30     ` Jakob Unterwurzacher
2010-05-17 19:36 ` Chris Mason
2010-05-18  0:14   ` Jakob Unterwurzacher
2010-05-18  0:30     ` Chris Mason
2010-05-18  0:59       ` Chris Mason
2010-05-18 12:03         ` Jakob Unterwurzacher
2010-05-18 13:13           ` Chris Mason
2010-05-18 13:28             ` Oystein Viggen [this message]
2010-05-18 14:47               ` Thomas Bellman
2010-05-18 13:39             ` Aidan Van Dyk
2010-05-18 14:06             ` Jakob Unterwurzacher
2010-05-18 14:36               ` Chris Mason
2010-05-18 15:57                 ` Jakob Unterwurzacher
2010-05-18 16:10                   ` Chris Mason
2010-05-18 18:01                     ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2010-05-18 18:24                     ` Jakob Unterwurzacher
2010-05-18 23:00             ` Ric Wheeler
2010-05-19  1:05               ` Bruce Guenter
2010-05-19  1:34             ` Andy Lutomirski

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