From: Nikolay Borisov <nborisov@suse.com>
To: Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Cc: David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/32] btrfs: extent_io: remove the extent_start/extent_len for end_bio_extent_readpage()
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 12:32:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <07ee7ff2-e2b1-5318-b72e-8bff87231036@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1e7bf8d5-30d0-a944-c400-b5fe870f1cb5@suse.com>
On 5.11.20 г. 12:15 ч., Qu Wenruo wrote:
>
>
<snip>
>>
>> The endio routine cares about logical file contiguity as evidenced by
>> the fact it uses page_offset() to calculate 'start', however our recent
>> discussion on irc with the contiguity in csums bios clearly showed that
>> we can have bios which contains pages that are contiguous in their disk
>> byte nr but not in their logical offset, in fact Josef even mentioned on
>> slack that a single bio can contain pages for different inodes so long
>> as their logical disk byte nr are contiguous. I think this is not an
>> issue in this case because you are doing the unlock on a bvec
>> granularity but just the above statement is somewhat misleading.
>
> Right, forgot the recent discovered bvec contig problem.
>
> But still, the contig check condition is still correct, just the commit
> message needs some update.
>
> Another off-topic question is, should we allow such on-disk bytenr only
> merge (to improve the IO output), or don't allow them to provide a
> simpler endio function?
Can't answer that without quantifying what the performance impact is so
we can properly judge complexity/performance trade-off!
<snip>
>> I suspect for large bios with a lot of bvecs this would likely increase
>> latency because we will now invoke endio_readpage_release_extent
>> proportionally to the number of bvecs.
>
> I believe the same situation.
>
> Now we need to do extent_io tree operations for each bvec.
> We can slightly reduce the overhead if we have something like globally
> cached extent_state.
>
> Your comment indeed implies we should do better extent contig cache,
> other than completely relying on extent io tree.
>
> Maybe I could find some good way to improve the situation, while still
> avoid doing the existing dancing.
First I'd like to have numbers showing what the overhead otherwise it
will be impossible to tell if whatever approach you choose brings any
improvements.
<snip>
>> Also bear in mind that this happens in a critical endio context, which
>> uses GFP_ATOMIC allocations so if we get ENOSPC it would be rather bad.
>
> I know you mean -ENOMEM.
Yep, my bad.
>
> But the true is, except the leading/tailing sector of the extent, we
> shouldn't really cause extra split/allocation.
That's something you assume so the real behavior might be different,
again I think we need to experiment to better understand the behavior.
<snip>
>> I definitely like the new code however without quantifying what's the
>> increase of number of calls of endio_readpage_release_extent I'd rather
>> not merge it.
>
> Your point stands.
>
> I could add a new wrapper to do the same thing, but with a small help
> from some new structure to really record the
> inode/extent_start/extent_len internally.
>
> The end result should be the same in the endio function, but much easier
> to read. (The complex part would definite have more comment)
>
> What about this solution?
IMO the best course of action is to measure the length of extents being
unlocked in the old version of the code and the number of bvecs in a
bio. That way you would be able to extrapolate with the new version of
the code how many more calls to extent unlock would have been made. This
will tell you how effective this optimisation really is and if it's
worth keeping around.
<snip>
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Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-03 13:30 [PATCH 00/32] btrfs: preparation patches for subpage support Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 01/32] btrfs: extent_io: remove the extent_start/extent_len for end_bio_extent_readpage() Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 9:46 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-05 10:15 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 10:32 ` Nikolay Borisov [this message]
2020-11-06 2:01 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-06 7:19 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 19:40 ` Josef Bacik
2020-11-06 1:52 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 02/32] btrfs: extent_io: integrate page status update into endio_readpage_release_extent() Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 10:26 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-05 11:15 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 10:35 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-05 11:25 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 19:34 ` Josef Bacik
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 03/32] btrfs: extent_io: add lockdep_assert_held() for attach_extent_buffer_page() Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 04/32] btrfs: extent_io: extract the btree page submission code into its own helper function Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 10:47 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-06 18:11 ` David Sterba
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 05/32] btrfs: extent-io-tests: remove invalid tests Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 06/32] btrfs: extent_io: calculate inline extent buffer page size based on page size Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 12:54 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 07/32] btrfs: extent_io: make btrfs_fs_info::buffer_radix to take sector size devided values Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 08/32] btrfs: extent_io: sink less common parameters for __set_extent_bit() Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 13:35 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-05 13:55 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 09/32] btrfs: extent_io: sink less common parameters for __clear_extent_bit() Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 10/32] btrfs: disk_io: grab fs_info from extent_buffer::fs_info directly for btrfs_mark_buffer_dirty() Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 13:45 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-05 13:49 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 11/32] btrfs: disk-io: make csum_tree_block() handle sectorsize smaller than page size Qu Wenruo
2020-11-06 18:58 ` David Sterba
2020-11-07 0:04 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-10 14:33 ` David Sterba
2020-11-11 0:08 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 12/32] btrfs: disk-io: extract the extent buffer verification from btrfs_validate_metadata_buffer() Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 13:57 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-06 19:03 ` David Sterba
2020-11-09 6:44 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-10 14:37 ` David Sterba
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 13/32] btrfs: disk-io: accept bvec directly for csum_dirty_buffer() Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 14:13 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 14/32] btrfs: inode: make btrfs_readpage_end_io_hook() follow sector size Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 14:28 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-06 19:16 ` David Sterba
2020-11-06 19:20 ` David Sterba
2020-11-06 19:28 ` David Sterba
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 15/32] btrfs: introduce a helper to determine if the sectorsize is smaller than PAGE_SIZE Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 15:01 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-05 22:52 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-06 17:28 ` David Sterba
2020-11-07 0:00 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-10 14:53 ` David Sterba
2020-11-11 1:34 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-11 2:21 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 16/32] btrfs: extent_io: allow find_first_extent_bit() to find a range with exact bits match Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 15:03 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-05 22:55 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 17/32] btrfs: extent_io: don't allow tree block to cross page boundary for subpage support Qu Wenruo
2020-11-06 11:54 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-06 12:03 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-06 13:25 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-06 14:04 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-06 23:56 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 18/32] btrfs: extent_io: update num_extent_pages() to support subpage sized extent buffer Qu Wenruo
2020-11-06 12:09 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 19/32] btrfs: handle sectorsize < PAGE_SIZE case for extent buffer accessors Qu Wenruo
2020-11-06 12:51 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-09 5:49 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 20/32] btrfs: disk-io: only clear EXTENT_LOCK bit for extent_invalidatepage() Qu Wenruo
2020-11-06 13:17 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 21/32] btrfs: extent-io: make type of extent_state::state to be at least 32 bits Qu Wenruo
2020-11-06 13:38 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 22/32] btrfs: file-item: use nodesize to determine whether we need readahead for btrfs_lookup_bio_sums() Qu Wenruo
2020-11-06 13:55 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-03 13:30 ` [PATCH 23/32] btrfs: file-item: remove the btrfs_find_ordered_sum() call in btrfs_lookup_bio_sums() Qu Wenruo
2020-11-06 14:28 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-03 13:31 ` [PATCH 24/32] btrfs: file-item: refactor btrfs_lookup_bio_sums() to handle out-of-order bvecs Qu Wenruo
2020-11-06 15:22 ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-11-03 13:31 ` [PATCH 25/32] btrfs: scrub: distinguish scrub_page from regular page Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:31 ` [PATCH 26/32] btrfs: scrub: remove the @force parameter of scrub_pages() Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:31 ` [PATCH 27/32] btrfs: scrub: use flexible array for scrub_page::csums Qu Wenruo
2020-11-09 17:44 ` David Sterba
2020-11-10 0:53 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-10 14:22 ` David Sterba
2020-11-03 13:31 ` [PATCH 28/32] btrfs: scrub: refactor scrub_find_csum() Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:31 ` [PATCH 29/32] btrfs: scrub: introduce scrub_page::page_len for subpage support Qu Wenruo
2020-11-09 18:17 ` David Sterba
2020-11-10 0:54 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-09 18:25 ` David Sterba
2020-11-10 0:56 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-11-10 14:27 ` David Sterba
2020-11-03 13:31 ` [PATCH 30/32] btrfs: scrub: always allocate one full page for one sector for RAID56 Qu Wenruo
2020-11-03 13:31 ` [PATCH 31/32] btrfs: scrub: support subpage tree block scrub Qu Wenruo
2020-11-09 18:31 ` David Sterba
2020-11-03 13:31 ` [PATCH 32/32] btrfs: scrub: support subpage data scrub Qu Wenruo
2020-11-05 19:28 ` [PATCH 00/32] btrfs: preparation patches for subpage support Josef Bacik
2020-11-06 0:02 ` Qu Wenruo
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