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From: Alexandre Poux <pums974@gmail.com>
To: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>
Cc: Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: multi-device btrfs with single data mode and disk failure
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 22:18:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0b29471c-363a-1e2f-d352-1d422c07df64@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJCQCtQ=sjj9jWHQ+9Xm1FSmVtMVgNbqGC6Mc7r6ZuBZpJ8U1g@mail.gmail.com>



Le 20/09/2016 à 21:46, Chris Murphy a écrit :
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Alexandre Poux <pums974@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Le 20/09/2016 à 21:11, Chris Murphy a écrit :
>>> And no backup? Umm, I'd resolve that sooner than anything else.
>> Yeah you are absolutely right, this was a temporary solution which came
>> to be not that temporary.
>> And I regret it already...
> Well on the bright side, if this were LVM or mdadm linear/concat
> array, the whole thing would be toast because any other file system
> would have lost too much fs metadata on the missing device.
>
>>>  It
>>> should be true that it'll tolerate a read only mount indefinitely, but
>>> read write? Not sure. This sort of edge case isn't well tested at all
>>> seeing as it required changing the kernel to reduce safe guards. So
>>> all bets are off the whole thing could become unmountable, not even
>>> read only, and then it's a scraping job.
>> I'm not that crazy, I tried the patch inside a virtual machine on
>> virtual drives...
>> And since it's only virtual, it may not work on the real partition...
> Are you sure the virtual setup lacked a CHUNK_ITEM on the missing
> device? That might be what pinned it in that case.
In fact in my virtual setup there was more chunk missing (1 metadata 1
System and 1 Data).
I will try to do a setup closer to my real one.
> You could try some sort of overlay for your remaining drives.
> Something like this:
> https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Recovering_a_failed_software_RAID#Making_the_harddisks_read-only_using_an_overlay_file
>
> Make sure you understand the gotcha about cloning which applies here:
> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gotchas
>
> I think it's safe to use blockdev --setro on every real device  you're
> trying to protect from changes. And when mounting you'll at least need
> to use device= mount option to explicitly mount each of the overlay
> devices. Based on the wiki, I'm wincing, I don't really know for sure
> if device mount option is enough to compel Btrfs to only use those
> devices and not go off the rails and still use one of the real
> devices, but at least if they're setro it won't matter (the mount will
> just fail somehow due to write failures).
>
> So now you can try removing the missing device... and see what
> happens. You could inspect the overlay files and see what changes were
> made.
Wow that looks like nice.
So, if it work, and if we find a way to fix the filesystem inside the vm,
I can use this over the real partion to check if it works before trying
the fix for real.
Nice idea.
>>> What do you get for btrfs-debug-tree -t 3 <dev>
>>>
>>> That should show the chunk tree, and what I'm wondering if if the
>>> chunk tree has any references to chunks on the missing device. Even if
>>> there are no extents on that device, if there are chunks, that might
>>> be one of the safeguards.
>>>
>> You'll find it attached.
>> The missing device is the devid 8 (since it's the only one missing in
>> btrfs fi show)
>> I found it only once line 63
> Yeah bummer. Not used for system, data, or metadata chunks at all.
>
>



  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-20 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-15  7:44 multi-device btrfs with single data mode and disk failure Alexandre Poux
2016-09-15 15:38 ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-15 16:30   ` Alexandre Poux
2016-09-15 16:54     ` Chris Murphy
     [not found]       ` <760be1b7-79b2-a25d-7c60-04ceac1b6e40@gmail.com>
2016-09-15 21:54         ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-19 22:05           ` Alexandre Poux
2016-09-20 17:03             ` Alexandre Poux
2016-09-20 17:54               ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-20 18:19                 ` Alexandre Poux
2016-09-20 18:38                   ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-20 18:53                     ` Alexandre Poux
2016-09-20 19:11                       ` Chris Murphy
     [not found]                         ` <4e7ec5eb-7fb6-2d19-f29d-82461e2d0bd2@gmail.com>
2016-09-20 19:46                           ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-20 20:18                             ` Alexandre Poux [this message]
2016-09-20 21:05                               ` Alexandre Poux
2016-09-20 21:15                               ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-29 12:55                                 ` Alexandre Poux
2016-09-30 23:46                                   ` Alexandre Poux
2016-09-20 19:43                       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-20 19:54                         ` Alexandre Poux
2016-09-20 20:02                           ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-20 19:55                         ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-21 11:07                           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-20 20:59                       ` Graham Cobb
2016-09-20 18:56                 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-09-20 19:06                   ` Alexandre Poux

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