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From: Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au>
To: John Williams <jwilliams4200@gmail.com>
Cc: Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>,
	kreijack@inwind.it, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>,
	Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] Slow startup of systemd-journal on BTRFS
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:19:47 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <11598527.ycfSoA5G7j@xev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJBj3vdQp3d+t-Nf112UVt_Kfrv9avhbSs1Rx=d8ca2kwtRQdw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 18:06:34 John Williams wrote:
> Why does it take 2 minutes? On XFS or ext4, fallocate is almost
> instantaneous, even for multi-Terabyte allocations.
> 
> According the fallocate man page, preallocation should be quick and
> require no IO:
> 
> "      fallocate  is  used  to manipulate the allocated disk space for a
> file, either to deallocate or preallocate it. For filesystems  which 
> support the  fallocate system call, preallocation is done quickly by
> allocating blocks and marking them as uninitialized, requiring no IO to 
> the  data blocks.  This  is  much  faster than creating a file by filling
> it with zeros."

No IO to data blocks but there is IO to metadata.

But I think that BTRFS may need some optimisation for such things.  While 
fallocate() on 24G is probably a very unusual case it will probably matter to 
some people (I can imagine scientific computing needing it) and it's likely 
that much smaller fallocate() calls also take longer than desired.

The issue was system CPU time, extending the file in that test was proceeding 
at a speed of about 200MB/s for allocated space - while the system was writing 
something less than 2MB/s to the device (sometimes it went for 10+ seconds 
without writing any data).  The SSD in question can sustain about 200MB/s of 
data written so in that case the BTRFS speed for allocating disk space was 
about equal to the speed it should be able to write real data.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-16  2:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-12 11:13 R: Re: Slow startup of systemd-journal on BTRFS Goffredo Baroncelli <kreijack@libero.it>
2014-06-12 12:37 ` Duncan
2014-06-12 23:24   ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-13 22:19     ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-14  2:53       ` Duncan
2014-06-14  7:52         ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-15  5:43           ` Duncan
2014-06-15 22:39             ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2014-06-15 22:13           ` Lennart Poettering
2014-06-16  0:17             ` Russell Coker
2014-06-16  1:06               ` John Williams
2014-06-16  2:19                 ` Russell Coker [this message]
2014-06-16 10:14               ` Lennart Poettering
2014-06-16 10:35                 ` Russell Coker
2014-06-16 11:16                   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-06-16 11:56                 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2014-06-16 16:05                 ` Josef Bacik
2014-06-16 19:52                   ` Martin
2014-06-16 20:20                     ` Josef Bacik
2014-06-17  0:15                     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-06-17  1:13                     ` cwillu
2014-06-17 12:24                       ` Martin
2014-06-17 17:56                       ` Chris Murphy
2014-06-17 18:46                       ` Filipe Brandenburger
2014-06-17 19:42                         ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-17 21:12                   ` Lennart Poettering
2014-06-16 16:32             ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-16 18:47               ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-19  1:13             ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-14 10:59         ` Kai Krakow
2014-06-15  5:02           ` Duncan
2014-06-15 11:18             ` Kai Krakow
2014-06-15 21:45           ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-06-15 21:51             ` Hugo Mills
2014-06-15 22:43           ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2014-06-15 21:31         ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-06-15 21:37           ` Hugo Mills
2014-06-17  8:22           ` Duncan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-06-11 21:28 Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-12  1:21 ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-12  1:37   ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-12  2:32     ` Chris Murphy
2014-06-15 22:34       ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2014-06-16  4:01         ` Chris Murphy
2014-06-16  4:38           ` cwillu

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