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From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>, "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] fix up lock order reversal in writeback
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:51:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1290105840-sup-3874@think> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101118103638.99c1e8bc.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

Excerpts from Andrew Morton's message of 2010-11-18 13:36:38 -0500:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:04:21 -0600 Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 11/18/10 11:10 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:55:18 -0600 Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > >>> Can we just delete writeback_inodes_sb_nr_if_idle() and
> > >>> writeback_inodes_sb_if_idle()?  The changelog for 17bd55d037a02 is
> > >>> pretty handwavy - do we know that deleting these things would make a
> > >>> jot of difference?
> > >>
> > >> Really?  I thought it was pretty decent ;)
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, xfstests 204, "Test out ENOSPC flushing on small filesystems."
> > >> shows the problem clearly, IIRC.  I should have included that in the
> > >> changelog, I suppose, sorry.
> > > 
> > > Your email didn't really impart any information :(
> > > 
> > > I suppose I could accidentally delete those nasty little functions in a
> > > drivers/parport patch then wait and see if anyone notices.
> > > 
> > 
> > Um, ok, then, to answer the question directly :
> > 
> > No, please don't delete those functions, it will break ENOSPC handling
> > in ext4 as shown by xfstests regression test #204 ...
> > 
> 
> If those functions "fix" a testcase then it was by sheer luck, and the
> fs's ENOSPC handling is still busted.
> 
> For a start writeback_inodes_sb_if_idle() is a no-op if the device
> isn't idle!  Secondly, if the device _was_ idle,
> writeback_inodes_sb_if_idle() uses a work handoff to another thread,
> which means that the work might not get executed for another six weeks.
> 
> So no, your ENOSPC handling is still busted and I'll be doing you a
> favour when I send that parport patch.

Btrfs uses it with this cool looping construct. It's an innovative
combination of while, 1, schedule_timeout(),  and if all goes well, break.

-chris

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-18 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-16 11:00 [patch] fix up lock order reversal in writeback Nick Piggin
2010-11-16 13:01 ` Jan Kara
2010-11-17  4:30   ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-17  4:38     ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-17  5:05       ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-17  6:10         ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-18  3:06           ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-18  3:29             ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18  6:00               ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-18  6:28                 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18  8:18                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-18 10:51                     ` Theodore Tso
2010-11-18 17:58                     ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-19  5:10                       ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-19 12:07                         ` Theodore Tso
2010-11-18 14:55                   ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-18 17:10                     ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 18:04                       ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-18 18:24                         ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-18 18:39                           ` Chris Mason
2010-11-18 18:36                         ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 18:51                           ` Chris Mason [this message]
2010-11-18 20:22                             ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 20:36                               ` Chris Mason
2010-11-18 19:02                           ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-18 20:17                             ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 18:33                   ` Chris Mason
2010-11-18 23:58                     ` Jan Kara
2010-11-19  0:45                   ` Jan Kara
2010-11-19  5:16                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-22 18:16                       ` Jan Kara
2010-11-23  8:07                         ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-23 13:32                           ` Jan Kara
2010-11-23  8:15                         ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-18 18:53             ` Al Viro
2010-11-18  3:18           ` Eric Sandeen
2010-11-22 23:43             ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-16 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-17  3:56   ` Nick Piggin

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