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From: Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi>
To: Josef Bacik <josef@redhat.com>
Cc: Gordan Bobic <gordan@bobich.net>,
	BTRFS MAILING LIST <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Offline Deduplication for Btrfs
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:58:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1294257493.2953.33.camel@havelock.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110105194645.GC2562@localhost.localdomain>

On ke, 2011-01-05 at 14:46 -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:
> Blah blah blah, I'm not having an argument about which is better because I
> simply do not care.  I think dedup is silly to begin with, and online dedup even
> sillier.  The only reason I did offline dedup was because I was just toying
> around with a simple userspace app to see exactly how much I would save if I did
> dedup on my normal system, and with 107 gigabytes in use, I'd save 300
> megabytes.  I'll say that again, with 107 gigabytes in use, I'd save 300
> megabytes.  So in the normal user case dedup would have been wholey useless to
> me.

I have been thinking a lot about de-duplication for a backup application
I am writing. I wrote a little script to figure out how much it would
save me. For my laptop home directory, about 100 GiB of data, it was a
couple of percent, depending a bit on the size of the chunks. With 4 KiB
chunks, I would save about two gigabytes. (That's assuming no MD5 hash
collisions.) I don't have VM images, but I do have a fair bit of saved
e-mail. So, for backups, I concluded it was worth it to provide an
option to do this. I have no opinion on whether it is worthwhile to do
in btrfs.

(For my script, see find-duplicate-chunks in
http://code.liw.fi/debian/pool/main/o/obnam/obnam_0.14.tar.gz or get the
current code using "bzr get http://code.liw.fi/obnam/bzr/trunk/".
http://braawi.org/obnam/ is the home page of the backup app.)

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-05 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-05 16:36 Offline Deduplication for Btrfs Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 16:36 ` [PATCH] Btrfs: add extent-same ioctl for dedup Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 17:50   ` Simon Farnsworth
2011-01-05 16:36 ` [PATCH] Btrfs-progs: add dedup functionality Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 17:42 ` Offline Deduplication for Btrfs Gordan Bobic
2011-01-05 18:41   ` Diego Calleja
2011-01-05 19:01     ` Ray Van Dolson
2011-01-05 20:27       ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-05 20:28       ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 20:25     ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-05 21:14       ` Diego Calleja
2011-01-05 21:21         ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-05 19:46   ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 19:58     ` Lars Wirzenius [this message]
2011-01-05 20:15       ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 20:34         ` Freddie Cash
2011-01-05 21:07       ` Lars Wirzenius
2011-01-05 20:12     ` Freddie Cash
2011-01-05 20:46     ` Gordan Bobic
     [not found]       ` <4D250B3C.6010708@shiftmail.org>
2011-01-06  1:03         ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06  1:56           ` Spelic
2011-01-06 10:39             ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06  3:33           ` Freddie Cash
2011-01-06  1:19       ` Spelic
2011-01-06  3:58         ` Peter A
2011-01-06 10:48           ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 13:33             ` Peter A
2011-01-06 14:00               ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 14:52                 ` Peter A
2011-01-06 15:07                   ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 16:11                     ` Peter A
2011-01-06 18:35           ` Chris Mason
2011-01-08  0:27             ` Peter A
2011-01-06 14:30         ` Tomasz Torcz
2011-01-06 14:49           ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06  1:29   ` Chris Mason
2011-01-06 10:33     ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-10 15:28     ` Ric Wheeler
2011-01-10 15:37       ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-10 15:39         ` Chris Mason
2011-01-10 15:43           ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-06 12:18   ` Simon Farnsworth
2011-01-06 12:29     ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 13:30       ` Simon Farnsworth
2011-01-06 14:20     ` Ondřej Bílka
2011-01-06 14:41       ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 15:37         ` Ondřej Bílka
2011-01-06  8:25 ` Yan, Zheng 
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-01-06  9:37 Tomasz Chmielewski
2011-01-06  9:51 ` Mike Hommey
2011-01-06 16:57   ` Hubert Kario
2011-01-06 10:52 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-16  0:18 Arjen Nienhuis

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