From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: Peter A <loony@loonybin.org>
Cc: linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Offline Deduplication for Btrfs
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:35:15 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1294338857-sup-1440@think> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201101052258.36457.loony@loonybin.org>
Excerpts from Peter A's message of 2011-01-05 22:58:36 -0500:
> On Wednesday, January 05, 2011 08:19:04 pm Spelic wrote:
> > > I'd just make it always use the fs block size. No point in making it
> > > variable.
> >
> > Agreed. What is the reason for variable block size?
>
> First post on this list - I mostly was just reading so far to learn more on fs
> design but this is one topic I (unfortunately) have experience with...
>
> You wouldn't believe the difference variable block size dedupe makes. For a
> pure fileserver, its ok to dedupe on block level but for most other uses,
> variable is king. One big example is backups. Netbackup and most others
> produce one stream with all data even when backing up to disk. Imagine you
> move a whole lot of data from one dir to another. Think a directory with huge
> video files. As a filesystem it would be de-duped nicely. The backup stream
> however may and may not have matching fs blocks. If the directory name before
> and after has the same lengths and such - then yeah, dedupe works. Directory
> name is a byte shorter? Everything in the stream will be offset by one byte -
> and no dedupe will occur at all on the whole dataset. In real world just
> compare the dedupe performance of an Oracle 7000 (zfs and therefore fs block
> based) to a DataDomain (variable lenght) in this usage scenario. Among our
> customers we see something like 3 to 17x dedupe ration on the DD, 1.02 - 1.05
> in the 7000.
What is the smallest granularity that the datadomain searches for in
terms of dedup?
Josef's current setup isn't restricted to a specific block size, but
there is a min match of 4k.
-chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-06 18:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-05 16:36 Offline Deduplication for Btrfs Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 16:36 ` [PATCH] Btrfs: add extent-same ioctl for dedup Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 17:50 ` Simon Farnsworth
2011-01-05 16:36 ` [PATCH] Btrfs-progs: add dedup functionality Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 17:42 ` Offline Deduplication for Btrfs Gordan Bobic
2011-01-05 18:41 ` Diego Calleja
2011-01-05 19:01 ` Ray Van Dolson
2011-01-05 20:27 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-05 20:28 ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 20:25 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-05 21:14 ` Diego Calleja
2011-01-05 21:21 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-05 19:46 ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 19:58 ` Lars Wirzenius
2011-01-05 20:15 ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 20:34 ` Freddie Cash
2011-01-05 21:07 ` Lars Wirzenius
2011-01-05 20:12 ` Freddie Cash
2011-01-05 20:46 ` Gordan Bobic
[not found] ` <4D250B3C.6010708@shiftmail.org>
2011-01-06 1:03 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 1:56 ` Spelic
2011-01-06 10:39 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 3:33 ` Freddie Cash
2011-01-06 1:19 ` Spelic
2011-01-06 3:58 ` Peter A
2011-01-06 10:48 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 13:33 ` Peter A
2011-01-06 14:00 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 14:52 ` Peter A
2011-01-06 15:07 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 16:11 ` Peter A
2011-01-06 18:35 ` Chris Mason [this message]
2011-01-08 0:27 ` Peter A
2011-01-06 14:30 ` Tomasz Torcz
2011-01-06 14:49 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 1:29 ` Chris Mason
2011-01-06 10:33 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-10 15:28 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-01-10 15:37 ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-10 15:39 ` Chris Mason
2011-01-10 15:43 ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-06 12:18 ` Simon Farnsworth
2011-01-06 12:29 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 13:30 ` Simon Farnsworth
2011-01-06 14:20 ` Ondřej Bílka
2011-01-06 14:41 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 15:37 ` Ondřej Bílka
2011-01-06 8:25 ` Yan, Zheng
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-01-06 9:37 Tomasz Chmielewski
2011-01-06 9:51 ` Mike Hommey
2011-01-06 16:57 ` Hubert Kario
2011-01-06 10:52 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-16 0:18 Arjen Nienhuis
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