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From: Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net>
To: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>
Cc: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>,
	Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: btrfs
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 19:37:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1465061839.6689.9.camel@scientia.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJCQCtS+GK88LZHY-uoWarn0qCuDuva4rg_TB_jEwAZo3nCcDQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sat, 2016-06-04 at 11:00 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> SNIA's DDF 2.0 spec Rev 19
> page 18/19 shows 'RAID-1 Simple Mirroring" vs "RAID-1 Multi-
> Mirroring"

And DDF came how many years after the original RAID paper and everyone
understood RAID1 as it was defined there? 1987 vs. ~2003 or so?

Also SINA's "standard definition" seems pretty strange, doesn't it?
They have two RAID1, as you say:
- "simple mirroring" with n=2
- "multi mirrioring" with n=3

I wouldn't see why the n=2 case is "simpler" than the n=3 case, neither
why the n=3 case is multi and the n=2 is not (it's also already
multiple disks).
Also why did they allow n=3 but not n>=3? If n=4 wouldn't make sense,
why would n=3, compared to n=2?

Anyway,...
- the original paper defines it as n mirrored disks
- Wikipedia handles it like that
- the already existing major RAID implementation (MD) in the Linux
  kernel handles it like that
- LVM's native mirroring, allows to set the number of mirrors, i.e. it
  allows for everything >=2 which is IMHO closer to the common meaning
  of RAID1 than to btrfs' two-duplicates

So even if there would be some reasonable competing definition (and I
don't think the rather proprietary DDF is very reasonable here), why
using one that is incomptabible with everything we have in Linux?


Cheers,
Chris.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-04 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-01 22:25 raid5/6 production use status? Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-06-02  9:24 ` Gerald Hopf
2016-06-02  9:35   ` Hugo Mills
2016-06-02 10:03     ` Gerald Hopf
2016-06-03 17:38   ` btrfs (was: raid5/6) production use status (and future)? Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-06-03 19:50     ` btrfs Austin S Hemmelgarn
2016-06-04  1:51       ` btrfs Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-06-04  7:24         ` btrfs Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-04 17:00           ` btrfs Chris Murphy
2016-06-04 17:37             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer [this message]
2016-06-04 19:13               ` btrfs Chris Murphy
2016-06-04 22:43                 ` btrfs Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-06-05 15:51                   ` btrfs Chris Murphy
2016-06-05 20:39                     ` btrfs Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-06-04 21:18             ` btrfs Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-05 20:39         ` btrfs Henk Slager
2016-06-05 20:56           ` btrfs Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-06-05 21:07             ` btrfs Hugo Mills
2016-06-05 21:31               ` btrfs Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-06-05 23:39                 ` btrfs Chris Murphy
2016-06-08  6:13                 ` btrfs Duncan
2016-06-06  0:56         ` btrfs Chris Murphy
2016-06-06 13:04         ` btrfs Austin S. Hemmelgarn
     [not found]     ` <f4a9ef2f-99a8-bcc4-5a8f-b022914980f0@swiftspirit.co.za>
2016-06-04  2:13       ` btrfs Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-06-04  2:36         ` btrfs Chris Murphy
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2024-01-15 15:32 btrfs Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming

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