From: Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net>
To: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>
Cc: Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RedHat 7.4 Release Notes: "Btrfs has been deprecated" - wut?
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 14:24:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1502713484.3608.1.camel@scientia.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e560ba2d-ad11-abe6-bb3a-788d7b5a7562@gmx.com>
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On Mon, 2017-08-14 at 14:36 +0800, Qu Wenruo wrote:
> > And how are you going to write your data and checksum atomically
> > when
> > doing in-place updates?
>
> Exactly, that's the main reason I can figure out why btrfs disables
> checksum for nodatacow.
Still, I don't get the problem here...
Yes it cannot be done atomically (without workarounds like a journal or
so), but this should be only an issue in case of a crash or similar.
And in this case nodatacow+nochecksum is anyway already bad, it's also
not atomic, so data may be completely garbage (e.g. half written)...
just that no one will ever notice.
The only problem that nodatacow + checksuming + nonatomic should give
is when the data was actually correctly written at a crash, but the
cheksum was not, in which case the bogus checksum would invalidate the
good data on next read.
Or do I miss something?
To me that sounds still much better than having no protection at all.
Cheers,
Chris.
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-02 8:38 RedHat 7.4 Release Notes: "Btrfs has been deprecated" - wut? Brendan Hide
2017-08-02 9:11 ` Wang Shilong
2017-08-03 19:18 ` Chris Murphy
2017-08-02 11:25 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-02 12:55 ` Lutz Vieweg
2017-08-02 13:47 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-02 18:44 ` Chris Mason
2017-08-02 22:12 ` Fajar A. Nugraha
2017-08-02 22:22 ` Chris Murphy
2017-08-03 9:59 ` Lutz Vieweg
2017-08-03 18:08 ` waxhead
2017-08-03 18:29 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2017-08-03 19:22 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-03 20:45 ` Brendan Hide
2017-08-03 22:00 ` Chris Murphy
2017-08-04 11:26 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-03 19:03 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-04 9:48 ` Duncan
2017-08-16 18:07 ` David Sterba
2017-08-04 14:05 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-08-04 23:55 ` Wang Shilong
2017-08-07 15:27 ` Chris Murphy
2017-08-10 0:35 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-08-12 0:10 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2017-08-12 7:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-12 11:51 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2017-08-12 12:12 ` Hugo Mills
2017-08-13 14:08 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2017-08-14 7:08 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-08-14 14:23 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2017-08-14 19:08 ` Chris Murphy
2017-08-14 20:27 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2017-08-14 6:36 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-08-14 7:43 ` Paul Jones
2017-08-14 7:46 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-08-14 12:32 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2017-08-14 12:58 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-08-14 12:24 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer [this message]
2017-08-14 14:23 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-14 15:13 ` Graham Cobb
2017-08-14 15:53 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-14 16:42 ` Graham Cobb
2017-08-14 19:54 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2017-08-15 11:37 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-15 14:41 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2017-08-15 15:43 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-16 13:12 ` Chris Mason
2017-08-16 13:31 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2017-08-16 13:53 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-16 14:11 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2017-08-16 15:07 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-16 17:26 ` Peter Grandi
2017-08-16 18:19 ` David Sterba
2017-08-16 16:54 ` Peter Grandi
2017-08-16 13:56 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-16 14:01 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-08-16 19:52 ` Chris Murphy
2017-08-17 6:25 ` GWB
2017-08-17 11:47 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-17 19:00 ` Chris Murphy
2017-08-17 20:34 ` GWB
2017-08-16 16:44 ` Peter Grandi
2017-08-14 19:39 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
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