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From: "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Zygo Blaxell <ce3g8jdj@umail.furryterror.org>,
	Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>
Cc: Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com>,
	Hugo Mills <hugo@carfax.org.uk>,
	kreijack@inwind.it, Roman Mamedov <rm@romanrm.net>,
	Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Adventures in btrfs raid5 disk recovery
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 07:23:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <188e0845-af90-44bc-a07a-424991e954ea@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160628031726.GJ14667@hungrycats.org>

On 2016-06-27 23:17, Zygo Blaxell wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 08:39:21PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:52 PM, Zygo Blaxell
>> <ce3g8jdj@umail.furryterror.org> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 04:30:23PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>>> Btrfs does have something of a work around for when things get slow,
>>>> and that's balance, read and rewrite everything. The write forces
>>>> sector remapping by the drive firmware for bad sectors.
>>>
>>> It's a crude form of "resilvering" as ZFS calls it.
>>
>> In what manner is it crude?
>
> Balance relocates extents, looks up backrefs, and rewrites metadata, all
> of which are extra work above what is required by resilvering (and extra
> work that is proportional to the number of backrefs and the (currently
> extremely poor) performance of the backref walking code, so snapshots
> and large files multiply the workload).
>
> Resilvering should just read data, reconstruct it from a mirror if
> necessary, and write it back to the original location (or read one
> mirror and rewrite the other).  That's more like what scrub does, except
> scrub rewrites only the blocks it couldn't read (or that failed csum).
It's worth pointing out that balance was not designed for resilvering, 
it was designed for reshaping arrays, converting replication profiles, 
and compaction at the chunk level.  Balance is not a resilvering tool, 
that just happens to be a useful side effect of running a balance 
(actually, so is the chunk level compaction).



  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-28 11:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-20  3:44 Adventures in btrfs raid5 disk recovery Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-20 18:13 ` Roman Mamedov
2016-06-20 19:11   ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-20 19:30     ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-20 20:40       ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-20 21:27         ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-21  1:55           ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-21  3:53             ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-22 17:14             ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-22 20:35               ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-23 19:32                 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2016-06-24  0:26                   ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24  1:47                     ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-24  4:02                       ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-24  8:50                         ` Hugo Mills
2016-06-24  9:52                           ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-24 10:16                             ` Hugo Mills
2016-06-24 10:19                               ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-24 10:59                                 ` Hugo Mills
2016-06-24 11:36                                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-24 17:40                               ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 18:06                                 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-24 17:06                             ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 17:21                               ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-24 17:52                                 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 18:19                                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-25 16:44                                     ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-25 21:52                                       ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-26  7:54                                         ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-26 15:03                                           ` Duncan
2016-06-26 19:30                                           ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-26 19:52                                             ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-27 11:21                                       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-27 16:17                                         ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-27 20:54                                           ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-27 21:02                                           ` Henk Slager
2016-06-27 21:57                                           ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-27 22:30                                             ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-28  1:52                                               ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-28  2:39                                                 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-28  3:17                                                   ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-28 11:23                                                     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn [this message]
2016-06-28 12:05                                             ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-28 12:14                                               ` Steven Haigh
2016-06-28 12:25                                                 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-28 16:40                                                   ` Steven Haigh
2016-06-28 18:01                                                     ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-28 18:17                                                       ` Steven Haigh
2016-07-05 23:05                                                         ` Chris Murphy
2016-07-06 11:51                                                           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-07-06 16:43                                                             ` Chris Murphy
2016-07-06 17:18                                                               ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-07-06 18:45                                                                 ` Chris Murphy
2016-07-06 19:15                                                                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-07-06 21:01                                                                     ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 16:52                           ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 16:56                             ` Hugo Mills
2016-06-24 16:39                         ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-24  1:36                   ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-23 23:37               ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24  2:07                 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-24  5:20                   ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 10:16                     ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-24 17:33                       ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 11:24                     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-24 16:32                     ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-24  2:17                 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-22  4:06 ` Adventures in btrfs raid5 disk recovery - update Zygo Blaxell

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