From: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Cc: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>,
btrfs-devel@oss.oracle.com, Zach Brown <zach.brown@oracle.com>,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Btrfs-devel] transaction ioctls
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:52:08 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080423235208.GA6120@brong.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200804230923.03752.chris.mason@oracle.com>
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 09:23:03AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 April 2008, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 09:07:28AM -0400, Chris Mason
> (chris.mason@oracle.com) wrote:
> > > But, userland expects things not to be undone. Picture two procs
> > > operating in a directory. One proc calls fsync and gets assurance from
> > > the FS that things are on disk. The other proc calls rollback and undoes
> > > the fsync. The posix API isn't built around this.
> >
> > Rollback happens on transaction, so first application called fsync in
> > own trasaction, which flushed data to disk, while second thread has own
> > trasaction, and that data will be removed, while data written in first
> > transaction is still on disk.
>
> The kind of logging this requires is outside the scope of Btrfs ;) It is
> possible if both procs are running in different tree roots, but how about:
>
> proc A: mkdir dir1
> proc A: create dir1/file1
> proc B: add data to dir1/file1
> proc B: fsync dir1/file1
> proc A: rollback
>
> Filesystems can be databases, but not with the current APIs. Userland simply
> isn't built around these semantics today.
proc A: mkdir dir1
proc A: create dir1/file1
proc B: add data to dir1/file1
proc B: fsync dir1/file1
proc A: unlink dir1/file1
proc A: rmdir dir1
I don't see the difference.
Bron.
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[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804221210130.23551@cobra.newdream.net>
2008-04-22 20:29 ` [Btrfs-devel] transaction ioctls Zach Brown
2008-04-22 20:41 ` Chris Mason
2008-04-22 20:52 ` Sage Weil
2008-04-22 20:55 ` Chris Mason
2008-04-22 20:56 ` Sage Weil
2008-04-22 21:05 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-23 12:50 ` Chris Mason
2008-04-23 12:57 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-23 13:07 ` Chris Mason
2008-04-23 13:15 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-23 13:23 ` Chris Mason
[not found] ` <200804230923.03752.chris.mason@oracle.com>
2008-04-23 16:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-23 17:15 ` Chris Mason
2008-04-23 23:52 ` Bron Gondwana [this message]
2008-04-24 13:06 ` Chris Mason
[not found] ` <200804240906.54788.chris.mason@oracle.com>
2008-04-27 10:55 ` Bron Gondwana
2008-04-23 17:12 ` btrfs-devel
2008-04-22 20:32 ` Chris Mason
2008-04-22 20:48 ` Sage Weil
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