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From: Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: Goffredo Baroncelli <kreijack@inwind.it>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: speeding up slow btrfs filesystem
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:10:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201112171710.53140.Martin@lichtvoll.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2297283.SPUU0GRYgu@venice>

Am Samstag, 17. Dezember 2011 schrieb Goffredo Baroncelli:
> > Adding new possibilities is one thing. And supporting snapshots
> > properly would depend on some support side from the applications. I
> > think that using snapshots for upgrades is a good idea.
> >
> >=20
> >
> > But OTOH I think that BTRFS should not break or slow down existing
> > userspace. I think that existing approaches like using fsync() like
> > according to quite some filesystem developers it should be used
> > should continue to work nicely.
>=20
> Nobody wants to slowdown the application. But the life is full of
> compromises. If you want the speed of ext4, you can use ext4. If you
> want the snapshot capability and the COW guarantee you can use BTRFS,
> but you have some slowness.
>=20
> Of course the best would be have the speed of the ext4 with the
> capabilities  of btrfs.... :-) Unfortunately today this is not
> available.

Its perfectly acceptable for me that BTRFS does not deliver this yet.

I understood your initial answer that its just that BTRFS is different =
and=20
thus performs poorly in fsync() based workloads and thats about it. Tha=
t=20
its a principal issue. That part I didn=B4t agree too. Heck from the de=
sign=20
differences of COW filesystem it might even be some sort of a principal=
=20
issue. But then I like to see this as a challenge, not as a show stoppe=
r.

Actually for me especially for that Amarok Thinkpad T23 there is no hur=
ry.=20
Its play BTRFS play machine. I just want to see what I can do with=20
filesystem maintenance to bring it up to speed.

Everything else is following development and upgrading kernels ;).

Thanks,
--=20
Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-17 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-17 11:54 speeding up slow btrfs filesystem Martin Steigerwald
2011-12-17 12:02 ` Martin Steigerwald
2011-12-17 12:50 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2011-12-17 16:10   ` Martin Steigerwald [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-12-16 17:51 Martin Steigerwald
2011-12-16 17:54 ` Martin Steigerwald
2011-12-16 18:38   ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2011-12-16 19:53     ` Martin Steigerwald
2011-12-16 20:58       ` Martin Steigerwald
2011-12-17  7:03         ` Sergei Trofimovich
2011-12-17 11:09           ` Martin Steigerwald
2011-12-17 11:26             ` Hugo Mills
2011-12-17 11:38               ` Martin Steigerwald
2011-12-17 11:45                 ` Hugo Mills
2011-12-17 11:57                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2011-12-17 16:35                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2011-12-17 17:27                     ` Hugo Mills
2011-12-17 11:39       ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2011-12-18 18:41     ` Andrea Gelmini
2011-12-20 19:46       ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2011-12-17 11:11 ` Chris Samuel
2011-12-17 12:00   ` Martin Steigerwald
2011-12-17 12:42     ` David McBride
2011-12-17 16:14       ` Martin Steigerwald

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