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From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@fusionio.com>
To: Alexander Block <ablock84@googlemail.com>
Cc: "kreijack@inwind.it" <kreijack@inwind.it>,
	"linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Btrfs "sendshots" and hidden snapshots
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 07:55:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120706115524.GH7159@shiny> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB9VWqBcZNc7unKA9sFC9nUrBgCB=G3tsDy89QXiQBmdvzbkwA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 02:51:43AM -0600, Alexander Block wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Goffredo Baroncelli <kreijack@libero.it> wrote:
> > On 07/05/2012 06:51 PM, Alexander Block wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> in IRC we had a discussion on how we could solve sending live
> >> subvolumes and how to send subvolumes without the need to
> >> administrate/keep old snapshots for incremental sends. One of the
> >> ideas was to introduce "sendshots", which are basically snapshots
> >> where no refs are counted for file data. This means, that when file
> >> data is changed in the sendshot origin, we do not consume extra space
> >> for two copies of the data. We would only have the metadata
> >> duplicated.
> >>
> >> For the initial btrfs send we could do this:
> >> 1. Create a hidden read-only snapshot of the subvolume to send. Hidden
> >> means that it's not referenced by any subvolume. It is however still a
> >> normal snapshot (not a sendshot!). Hidden snapshots are not possible
> >> atm so we would have to implement that. This step allows us to send
> >> read-write subvolumes, because we have a freezed version of it.
> >
> > Why we should want/need an hidden snapshot ? We could put this kind of
> > hidden snapshot under a directory dot-prefixed (like /.hidden-subvolumes)
> That would have the problem that the user may modify the subvolume
> in-between (by removing the ro flag). Or he could simple cd into it
> and we would later fail to delete it.

I prefer to make this more explicit.  We could add a hard-readonly flag
that cannot be cleared.  Having the snapshot show in the FS lets the
admin know what things are really using space.

-chris

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-06 11:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-05 16:51 [RFC] Btrfs "sendshots" and hidden snapshots Alexander Block
2012-07-05 22:34 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2012-07-06  8:51   ` Alexander Block
2012-07-06 11:55     ` Chris Mason [this message]
2012-07-06 12:03       ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2012-07-06 12:45         ` Alexander Block
2012-07-09 15:51           ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2012-07-06 12:00     ` Goffredo Baroncelli

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